[3.10] Herald of Agony Mana Guardian | 2.5 Minute Sirus 8 | Deathless T19 100% Delirium

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Okahuma wrote:

Question: Is it possible to have 4 spectres with this build? Pretty sure I saw another mana guardian with 4 spectres. The gem only gives 2 right? Then we 1 more from Death Attunement. Where could we get a 4th spectre?

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k4t4 wrote:

Can we please have a Cyclone variant( to replace ball lightning) and gems link?
Thank you.

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BenN1ce wrote:

I don't understand How I can have a level 27 herald of agony and do no damage. I Switched from this build from herald of agony / purity build because I eventually wanted to stop using cyclone. On 50c at the time I was doing more damage than this build.

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Mythrol1 wrote:

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k4t4 wrote:

Can we please have a Cyclone variant( to replace ball lightning) and gems link?
Thank you.

OP has a Cyclone variant listed in the first post. You can run Cyclone on your gloves with the right mods. It's detailed pretty well there.

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BenN1ce wrote:

I don't understand How I can have a level 27 herald of agony and do no damage. I Switched from this build from herald of agony / purity build because I eventually wanted to stop using cyclone. On 50c at the time I was doing more damage than this build.

This build is without a doubt not a budget one. I have a 26HOA and what really made my damage feel like it was on another level was switching from maim to Vicious Projectiles. How is that HOA/Purity build you mention compare to this one on tankiness? I'd assume that's where this build excels over most is it's ability to stay alive.

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Mythrol1 wrote:

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Okahuma wrote:

Question: Is it possible to have 4 spectres with this build? Pretty sure I saw another mana guardian with 4 spectres. The gem only gives 2 right? Then we 1 more from Death Attunement. Where could we get a 4th spectre?

Yes 4 Spectres is key to this build since one of the asc points goes into Radiant Crusade which gives us permanent onslaught when we have 5 minions out (4 spectres + crawler).

You need a level 21 Raise Spectre gem + the listed shield + a wand that gives +1 to all minion gems. That allows your Raise Spectre gem to give you 3 minions plus the 1 from Death Attunement gets you 4.

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Mythrol1 wrote:

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Okahuma wrote:

Question: Is it possible to have 4 spectres with this build? Pretty sure I saw another mana guardian with 4 spectres. The gem only gives 2 right? Then we 1 more from Death Attunement. Where could we get a 4th spectre?

Yes 4 Spectres is key to this build since one of the asc points goes into Radiant Crusade which gives us permanent onslaught when we have 5 minions out (4 spectres + crawler).

You need a level 21 Raise Spectre gem + the listed shield + a wand that gives +1 to all minion gems. That allows your Raise Spectre gem to give you 3 minions plus the 1 from Death Attunement gets you 4.

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The issue here is that non-blocking things aren't found by the code that looks for targets in an area - they're not "taking up" any space, so they're not "there". We can't just change that because it would cause a performance hit - a lot more objects would start needing to be iterated over constantly for various auras and similar effects, so this has to have a more complicated fix. I've got an issue noting it, but it's likely to be a long-term thing due to the ratio of work and ongoing performance cost compared to benefit.

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Mythrol1 wrote:

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Okahuma wrote:

Question: Is it possible to have 4 spectres with this build? Pretty sure I saw another mana guardian with 4 spectres. The gem only gives 2 right? Then we 1 more from Death Attunement. Where could we get a 4th spectre?

Yes 4 Spectres is key to this build since one of the asc points goes into Radiant Crusade which gives us permanent onslaught when we have 5 minions out (4 spectres + crawler).

You need a level 21 Raise Spectre gem + the listed shield + a wand that gives +1 to all minion gems. That allows your Raise Spectre gem to give you 3 minions plus the 1 from Death Attunement gets you 4.