[3.10] Herald of Agony Mana Guardian | 2.5 Minute Sirus 8 | Deathless T19 100% Delirium

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Patrolek87 wrote:
What about going facebreaker cyclone with poison suport and hoag on geofri?


I’m not OP nor am I good at making builds but this build is relies on increasing HoAg levels for dps. I think you loose to much dps with no +2 wand and +1-2 skin of the loyal. That’s potentially +4 HoAg level you cannot get going that route. Not to mention the defensive layer 100% increased global defenses gives. You should put it together in PoB and see what you come up with. They’re are plenty of people looking to play this build without ball lightening. I mean if I could do it with charged dash I would..
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Cyange wrote:
After doing all content i wanted to give it a try, got the build in my stash, but damn i needed to warn everyone on how hard the lvling is.

Even with the quill arrow setup it's a pure nightmare compared to other characters that can blaze through lvling.

I'd really appreciate if some of you found ways to ease it up since i'd like to make it my 2nd character for next league.


I didn't have any difficulty leveling myself. I just leveled it as a normal summoner with a summoner tree, getting my damage from zombies and specters as usual. Just used the regrets to respec to HOA at about level 85.
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mardukthewolf wrote:
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Cyange wrote:
After doing all content i wanted to give it a try, got the build in my stash, but damn i needed to warn everyone on how hard the lvling is.

Even with the quill arrow setup it's a pure nightmare compared to other characters that can blaze through lvling.

I'd really appreciate if some of you found ways to ease it up since i'd like to make it my 2nd character for next league.


I didn't have any difficulty leveling myself. I just leveled it as a normal summoner with a summoner tree, getting my damage from zombies and specters as usual. Just used the regrets to respec to HOA at about level 85.


I thnk i was stupid enough to follow the lvl 68 pob, when i should have just go with some totem/summoner build until total respect at 68.
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Cyange wrote:
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mardukthewolf wrote:

I didn't have any difficulty leveling myself. I just leveled it as a normal summoner with a summoner tree, getting my damage from zombies and specters as usual. Just used the regrets to respec to HOA at about level 85.


I thnk i was stupid enough to follow the lvl 68 pob, when i should have just go with some totem/summoner build until total respect at 68.


First time I tried a CI and I made the same mistake leveling as the guide suggested. It was really annoying.
A PoB link to to a pre-68/CI leveling would be really helpful and a step-up for this guide. (I really like it otherwise. This is a great build and I am grateful for this guide!)
Wanted to share a raise zombie build variant.
it's pretty much the same as my skeleton variant except that I use raise zombie and no splash, multistrike instead. So you can reuse the 1g2b3r skin of the loyal. I did not change any items, just gems.

https://pastebin.com/zECj1n5Z

Why play this version?

Well, it's if you only want to have one button to press
Yeah OK the HOA version has ball lightning, but you still have to move, so that's two buttons
This raise zombie build only has one button, shield charge. You can hit your flasks if you want, but I don't, I only use it on bosses. Spam shield charge now and then to trigger offering / convocation

The damage is lower than skeletons or hoag BY OBSERVATION and by POB, but it's not bad, good enough to clear maps quickly. A little slower on bosses, but still good. and you pretty much just stand there. no casting ball lightning or summon skeletons, etc.

Spoiler


Last edited by antmit on Jan 28, 2020, 8:59:07 PM
quick question: i have found primeval chamber and gotten the flayers. can i continue to delve and still have the flayers on desecrate? (or would i need to go back to the primeval chamber again to pickup the flayers again if swap gems)
thanks
I need stoneskin flayers plz help. The stoopid game has been removing them for me for some reason and I don't weapon swap them out


@TheChosenOne_
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zeella wrote:
quick question: i have found primeval chamber and gotten the flayers. can i continue to delve and still have the flayers on desecrate? (or would i need to go back to the primeval chamber again to pickup the flayers again if swap gems)
thanks


well the is a tricky question.

if you swap gems and then go right for them again form desecrate yes they should be there. but say u swap and log out before getting them yes u will have to go back
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TheChosenOne_ wrote:
I need stoneskin flayers plz help. The stoopid game has been removing them for me for some reason and I don't weapon swap them out


@TheChosenOne_



please
How worth it would it be to try and push HoAG level 35. i think it is possible to achieve with gettign +2 on next and +2 on the shield as well.

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