[3.10] Herald of Agony Mana Guardian | 2.5 Minute Sirus 8 | Deathless T19 100% Delirium

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neenjafus wrote:

I believe my skeletons were level 30 also and I also didn’t like it as much as hoa. I very much liked having discipline and I did notice the extra defense but it was just clunky for mapping. I switched back and it felt much smoother although not as tanky.

I’ve since added 2 or 3 levels to hoa getting up to 31. I’ve dropped a bit of es down to 14k (no watchers eye) but the dps is insane and gameplay feels so smooth now. I’m only at awakened 5 but sirus was no problem although I died once, it was to me screwing up a storm so not related to the build. Otherwise he and his conquerors drop quite quickly.

I highly recommend lvl 31 hoa if you can do it. Even if you lose 500 es or so, it’s worth it!

Even with a decent amulet im losing 1500ES for 22-24% more damage.
Using your Amulet on my build im losing 1500ES also.
Im not sure its worth it. Maybe once ive hit level 100 ill look into it.
Those amulets seem cheap enough.

Hey i'm looking forward to starting this build. I know the guide says level with any melee skill till 18 then HOA will take care of itself. How was leveling in this new league with all the new buffs? Would that and rain of arrows still be suffice to getting through story content?

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Markuchi wrote:

Even with a decent amulet im losing 1500ES for 22-24% more damage.
Using your Amulet on my build im losing 1500ES also.
Im not sure its worth it. Maybe once ive hit level 100 ill look into it.
Those amulets seem cheap enough.

After min maxing my gear a bit I was able to get it down to about 800-1000ES loss but it is a loss no doubt about it. I am only level 92 however so once I get some more nodes I'm sure I can get to 12-13k ES even with the rare amulet.

Btw, has anyone been running Aligned Spirits over Utmost Int? It's a bit of an ES loss (my build shows about 500ES) but it increases my dps by nearly 200k. Wondering if it's worth it.

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Mythrol1 wrote:

Btw, has anyone been running Aligned Spirits over Utmost Int? It's a bit of an ES loss (my build shows about 500ES) but it increases my dps by nearly 200k. Wondering if it's worth it.

get some more levels.. get both! I have both :)

has anyone done the calculations to see what a build would look like that focuses on physical dmg instead of running hatred and EE?

one of the annoyances i have with the build is spamming a spell with .75s cast time

what about running pride aura, use vortex (0 cast time) to get virulence, and use vulnerability, war banner.

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antmit wrote:

has anyone done the calculations to see what a build would look like that focuses on physical dmg instead of running hatred and EE?

one of the annoyances i have with the build is spamming a spell with .75s cast time

what about running pride aura, use vortex (0 cast time) to get virulence, and use vulnerability, war banner.

How do you have 0.75 cast time? I have 0.45, without Onslaught which is usually always up and makes it even faster. Feels very fluid.

Anyways, last time someone made a suggestion of going Pure phys Impale it ended up with a ton less damage. I mean, Hatred+generosity and EE removed? thats like 2/3 of our damage.

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Mecielle wrote:

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antmit wrote:

has anyone done the calculations to see what a build would look like that focuses on physical dmg instead of running hatred and EE?

one of the annoyances i have with the build is spamming a spell with .75s cast time

what about running pride aura, use vortex (0 cast time) to get virulence, and use vulnerability, war banner.

How do you have 0.75 cast time? I have 0.45, without Onslaught which is usually always up and makes it even faster. Feels very fluid.

Anyways, last time someone made a suggestion of going Pure phys Impale it ended up with a ton less damage. I mean, Hatred+generosity and EE removed? thats like 2/3 of our damage.

oo you're right, it's .47s for me
I guess it felt slower like the tooltip says

thanks for the wisdom re: physical. glad to have wiser people around before i try stupid stuff :D

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hitmantb wrote:

Is it possible for you to record a few videos? Really curious to see what a min/max Skeleton build with our defense looks like :)

I can try. My internet sucks with PoE which is why I always play tanky builds. If I'm having a good night my game play is very fast and fluid, if I get a lot of skips/lag it would be horrible to watch. Is there an easy way to record? I haven't tried to record game play since... modern warfare 2

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crazypearce wrote:

I had pretty much maxed gear afaik. +2 duration skin, +2 weapon, lvl 21 vaal skellies, empower 4. Skeletons were level 30 with 830k dps with ruthless, 550k with splash. Maybe I just didn't like the playstyle as much but it definitely felt more awkward and annoying to play. For example I've never had to respawn a flayer once ever but had to summon apes multiple times, sometimes in a single map.

Interesting, what is your play style with skeles? I run / flame dash and cast skeles once on packs and keep going (adrenaline flask, cast skele, flame dash, cast skele, keep running etc), you just need to know your DPS is high enough to pop the packs before you cast a 3rd time again. I've played skeletons several times before so I have a pretty good feel for how to use them quickly. I just think of casting skeletons as the same as casting arc or using baal lightning, except the skeletons spread and attack enemies after you cast them.

I switched to apes last night and had deaths once or twice, I wouldn't stop in a middle of a map to re-summon though, not really necessary. I ran with stoneskin flayers for the last few weeks though, so apes aren't necessary just a dps boost.

Hey, would anyone loan me a Desecrate so I can raise Stoneskin Flayer? I will happily tip. Whisper me in game please.

Edit: thanks, got it. Lots of people offering :)