[3.10] Herald of Agony Mana Guardian | 2.5 Minute Sirus 8 | Deathless T19 100% Delirium
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Mythrol1 wrote:
Alright so after even more dropping money into this I was able to run a 4th aura (blood and sand) without having the herald of agony helmet enchant. Once I get that I'm pretty sure I'll be able to switch to Discipline since I'm only 5% short as of right now. I might even be able to take away a point or two into reserved mana nodes. Here's my gear for people wondering.
I still have to get a properly colored body but I'll be saving up my money for that now since I just spent a ton getting all of this set up. Keep in mind I'm only level 92 so I've got a ton more points to dump into this build as well but so far I'm sitting at just about 5.1m dps and ~11.5k ES. The rest of my points will go into getting my ES up probably. I don't think damage will be much of an issue from here on out.
Of course if anyone has any advice on where to go from here, I'm all ears. There's not a ton left to tweak though I don't think until the really big stuff and the helmet mod. (PS just ignore my Flesh & Stone and Skitterbot gems lol. Figured why buy them when I'm so close to just leveling them up).
Wow, how many corrupted -1% mana reservation jewels do you have?
It is ridiculous to run Hatred/Flesh and Stone/Skitter Bot auras WITHOUT helmet enchant. This is crazy stuff. Too bad there are no more OP auras/sockets left. If you do get the helmet enchant you can free up passive points, double curse etc . . .
I tried mix in haste, pride etc and the damage increase is too small.
I think answer is 4 corrupted -1% mana reservation jewels with conqueror's efficiency, charisma anointment, corrupted glove and all the trimmings, 6 if you run watcher's eye . . .
We are taking this build to ridiculous heights. I don't think anyone ever expected Herald of Agony, a super expensive skill to be ran with this many OP auras, on a class with every defensive layer in the game AND the highest hp/armor.
Last edited by hitmantb#6251 on Jan 5, 2020, 11:43:05 PM
Wow, how many corrupted -1% mana reservation jewels do you have?
It is ridiculous to run Hatred/Flesh and Stone/Skitter Bot auras WITHOUT helmet enchant. This is crazy stuff. Too bad there are no more OP auras/sockets left. If you do get the helmet enchant you can free up passive points, double curse etc . . .
I tried mix in haste, pride etc and the damage increase is too small.
Just two corrupted -1% mana reservation jewels. The Golden Rule & Conqueror's Efficiency. I also have a max roll on my CoN and the usual enlight 5, charisma, etc. But, I WAS actually able to get there without the helmet enchant. Now I'll probably spend some time running lab to see if I can't get it.
Of course my endgame will be to get that correctly colored body, get Watcher's Eye AND ALSO figure out where I can put clarity while also running all my other auras. I'm scared the actual option is get a socketed ring but omg I can't even imagine the headache in trying to get capped res on a socketed ring while keeping everything else.
My actual numbers for my mana reserved with my listed gear and the two jewels / charisma / etc is: HOA 25%, Hatred 32%, Skitterbots 23%, Flesh & Stone 19%. Leaves me exactly 1% mana.
Last edited by Mythrol1#2691 on Jan 5, 2020, 11:56:16 PM
Wow, how many corrupted -1% mana reservation jewels do you have?
It is ridiculous to run Hatred/Flesh and Stone/Skitter Bot auras WITHOUT helmet enchant. This is crazy stuff. Too bad there are no more OP auras/sockets left. If you do get the helmet enchant you can free up passive points, double curse etc . . .
I tried mix in haste, pride etc and the damage increase is too small.
Just two corrupted -1% mana reservation jewels. The Golden Rule & Conqueror's Efficiency. I also have a max roll on my CoN and the usual enlight 5, charisma, etc. But, I WAS actually able to get there without the helmet enchant. Now I'll probably spend some time running lab to see if I can't get it.
Of course my endgame will be to get that correctly colored body, get Watcher's Eye AND ALSO figure out where I can put clarity while also running all my other auras. I'm scared the actual option is get a socketed ring but omg I can't even imagine the headache in trying to get capped res on a socketed ring while keeping everything else.
My actual numbers for my mana reserved with my listed gear and the two jewels / charisma / etc is: HOA 25%, Hatred 32%, Skitterbots 23%, Flesh & Stone 19%. Leaves me exactly 1% mana.
You are totally right. If you had even 1% less roll on Circle of Nostalgia, you would not be able to do this. Literally every single thing is needed. Incredible job, hopefully you get that watcher. I think increased duration is the easiest support gem to drop, until you figure out a way to get 150% resistance on unset ring :)
Added this to the mana reservation section. Basically anyone lucky enough to have every mana reservation item in the book can do hatred/skitterbot/flesh and stone WITHOUT helmet enchant. Herald of Agony OR Hatred mana reservation enchant will free up a lot of options.
It is incredibly fitting that the mana guardian build's true power is all about mana, both getting more mana and reducing mana reservation cost to squeeze in more OP auras. And it is super satisfying too.
Last edited by hitmantb#6251 on Jan 6, 2020, 12:14:41 AM
Of course my endgame will be to get that correctly colored body, get Watcher's Eye AND ALSO figure out where I can put clarity while also running all my other auras. I'm scared the actual option is get a socketed ring but omg I can't even imagine the headache in trying to get capped res on a socketed ring while keeping everything else.
Well, in your endgame you probably won't be wearing a Cyclopian Coil as a Hunter Heavy Belt or a Hunter Stygian Vise is orders of magnitudes better. So you have one suffix there that will be resists. The others being flat str and % attributes. While not a lot, that should make it easier to find or make an Unset Ring to cap resists. Even crafted it is 2x20% resistance after all. So if you have an Unset Ring with the same stats as your current ring, you can craft the lost resists from the ring implicits and be done. Just saying, it won't be that big of a problem.
Other thing that could help a little bit would be a CoN with resist implicit.
Last edited by Mecielle#3021 on Jan 6, 2020, 12:21:15 AM
You are totally right. If you had even 1% less roll on Circle of Nostalgia, you would not be able to do this. Literally every single thing is needed. Incredible job, hopefully you get that watcher. I think increased duration is the easiest support gem to drop, until you figure out a way to get 150% resistance on unset ring :)
Added this to the mana reservation section. Basically anyone lucky enough to have every mana reservation item in the book can do hatred/skitterbot/flesh and stone WITHOUT helmet enchant. Herald of Agony OR Hatred mana reservation enchant will free up a lot of options.
It is incredibly fitting that the mana guardian build's true power is all about mana, both getting more mana and reducing mana reservation cost to squeeze in more OP auras. And it is super satisfying too.
Some say lucky, I would say stupid enough to drop a ton of ex's on getting near perfect rolls. I made my own wand, both corrupted jewels (along with a corrupted blood one as well), my neck / ring / boots, dropped the divines to get capped roll on CoN. I suppose when you take into account how many items I rolled and annu'ed then yeah I was probably lucky too. Heck even the fire res roll on my Memory vault had to be capped just so I could cap my fire res without taking a suboptimal piece of gear.
You hit the nail on the head though. It does feel SUPER rewarding to be able to squeeze every little bit out of this build while trying to also balance everything out. This league has been super fun.
@hitmantb: In the "High priority Upgrades" section under the Lethal Pride you listed good notable modifiers. You should add "chance to intimidate on hit" as the best one to land ;)
Well, in your endgame you probably won't be wearing a Cyclopian Coil as a Hunter Heavy Belt or a Hunter Stygian Vise is orders of magnitudes better. So you have one suffix there that will be resists. The others being flat str and % attributes. While not a lot, that should make it easier to find or make an Unset Ring to cap resists. Even crafted it is 2x20% resistance after all. So if you have an Unset Ring with the same stats as your current ring, you can craft the lost resists from the ring implicits and be done. Just saying, it won't be that big of a problem.
Other thing that could help a little bit would be a CoN with resist implicit.
You know, I've been so busy trying to hit enough mana reserve to get Flesh & Stone that I didn't even stop and think about the fact that really the Cyclopian Coil isn't super hard to replace in this build for something that probably is just straight up better. Especially since switching to the rare amulet it probably makes sense to focus on getting a better belt that would allow me to change my ring to an unset ring and add clarity that way.
Thank You for this. And darn, I've still got to roll intimidation on hit on my Lethal Pride. . . .and after I already spent so much today getting a +20str +5% str roll.
I'll probably buy a new one to roll on so I don't mess this one up. lol
Last edited by Mythrol1#2691 on Jan 6, 2020, 12:33:12 AM
Well, in your endgame you probably won't be wearing a Cyclopian Coil as a Hunter Heavy Belt or a Hunter Stygian Vise is orders of magnitudes better. So you have one suffix there that will be resists. The others being flat str and % attributes. While not a lot, that should make it easier to find or make an Unset Ring to cap resists. Even crafted it is 2x20% resistance after all. So if you have an Unset Ring with the same stats as your current ring, you can craft the lost resists from the ring implicits and be done. Just saying, it won't be that big of a problem.
Other thing that could help a little bit would be a CoN with resist implicit.
You know, I've been so busy trying to hit enough mana reserve to get Flesh & Stone that I didn't even stop and think about the fact that really the Cyclopian Coil isn't super hard to replace in this build for something that probably is just straight up better. Especially since switching to the rare amulet it probably makes sense to focus on getting a better belt that would allow me to change my ring to an unset ring and add clarity that way.
Thank You for this. And darn, I've still got to roll intimidation on hit on my Lethal Pride. . . .and after I already spent so much today getting a +20str +5% str roll.
I'll probably buy a new one to roll on so I don't mess this one up. lol
Well, if you want to save currency and are not in a hurry, set a live search for cheap Kaom's or Rakiata. Then divine them into Kiloava and check for intimidate. If it's a bust, sell it for around 30-40c more than you bought it for, since Kiloava is more expensive. Much easier on the currency.
Sure, the fast way is to throw a hundred Divines at it, but it's something you can do on the side while playing. It's not like it is essential. It is just nice to have both Time of Need and Bastion of hope and still get the 10% more damage from Intimidate.
Last edited by Mecielle#3021 on Jan 6, 2020, 12:38:20 AM
@hitmantb: In the "High priority Upgrades" section under the Lethal Pride you listed good notable modifiers. You should add "chance to intimidate on hit" as the best one to land ;)
Updated, there are people who prefer to play without Unwavering Crusade already, with this mod it is even easier to make that decision.
