[3.10] Herald of Agony Mana Guardian | 2.5 Minute Sirus 8 | Deathless T19 100% Delirium

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antmit wrote:

has anyone done the calculations to see what a build would look like that focuses on physical dmg instead of running hatred and EE?

one of the annoyances i have with the build is spamming a spell with .75s cast time

what about running pride aura, use vortex (0 cast time) to get virulence, and use vulnerability, war banner.

How do you have 0.75 cast time? I have 0.45, without Onslaught which is usually always up and makes it even faster. Feels very fluid.

Anyways, last time someone made a suggestion of going Pure phys Impale it ended up with a ton less damage. I mean, Hatred+generosity and EE removed? thats like 2/3 of our damage.

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Mecielle wrote:

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antmit wrote:

has anyone done the calculations to see what a build would look like that focuses on physical dmg instead of running hatred and EE?

one of the annoyances i have with the build is spamming a spell with .75s cast time

what about running pride aura, use vortex (0 cast time) to get virulence, and use vulnerability, war banner.

How do you have 0.75 cast time? I have 0.45, without Onslaught which is usually always up and makes it even faster. Feels very fluid.

Anyways, last time someone made a suggestion of going Pure phys Impale it ended up with a ton less damage. I mean, Hatred+generosity and EE removed? thats like 2/3 of our damage.

oo you're right, it's .47s for me
I guess it felt slower like the tooltip says

thanks for the wisdom re: physical. glad to have wiser people around before i try stupid stuff :D

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hitmantb wrote:

Is it possible for you to record a few videos? Really curious to see what a min/max Skeleton build with our defense looks like :)

I can try. My internet sucks with PoE which is why I always play tanky builds. If I'm having a good night my game play is very fast and fluid, if I get a lot of skips/lag it would be horrible to watch. Is there an easy way to record? I haven't tried to record game play since... modern warfare 2

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crazypearce wrote:

I had pretty much maxed gear afaik. +2 duration skin, +2 weapon, lvl 21 vaal skellies, empower 4. Skeletons were level 30 with 830k dps with ruthless, 550k with splash. Maybe I just didn't like the playstyle as much but it definitely felt more awkward and annoying to play. For example I've never had to respawn a flayer once ever but had to summon apes multiple times, sometimes in a single map.

Interesting, what is your play style with skeles? I run / flame dash and cast skeles once on packs and keep going (adrenaline flask, cast skele, flame dash, cast skele, keep running etc), you just need to know your DPS is high enough to pop the packs before you cast a 3rd time again. I've played skeletons several times before so I have a pretty good feel for how to use them quickly. I just think of casting skeletons as the same as casting arc or using baal lightning, except the skeletons spread and attack enemies after you cast them.

I switched to apes last night and had deaths once or twice, I wouldn't stop in a middle of a map to re-summon though, not really necessary. I ran with stoneskin flayers for the last few weeks though, so apes aren't necessary just a dps boost.

Hey, would anyone loan me a Desecrate so I can raise Stoneskin Flayer? I will happily tip. Whisper me in game please.

Edit: thanks, got it. Lots of people offering :)

Has any1 tried using firestorm to apply poison? Or is ball lightning superior?

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"10% chance to Intimidate enemies for 4 seconds on hit" on Unnatural Calm. Been buying and selling Lethal Prides off and on for 6 days now.

Get like 75% of the benefit from Unwavering Crusade without speccing into it and still using the defensive powerhouse nodes of Time of Need and Bastion of Hope.

Roughly 500k damage boost from my Lethal Pride. That was all I was looking for, but also got a +20 Str.

For fights that are entirely single target with no adds, how do you guys keep up the virulence stacks? I've found myself even with 20/20 faster casting and 20 quality Ball Lightning to only be able to keep up around 15-20 stacks.

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Mistletoes wrote:

For fights that are entirely single target with no adds, how do you guys keep up the virulence stacks? I've found myself even with 20/20 faster casting and 20 quality Ball Lightning to only be able to keep up around 15-20 stacks.

I can keep full stacks against one enemy.

The only way what you describe is possible is when you run "enemies have x% chance to avoid being poisoned, bleeding" maps. On awakener 8 that mod is closee to 100% chance to avoid in high tier maps, because awakener 8 boosts the effect of map mods by 24%.

I don't run that mod, obviously :D I mean, I run it now, HoAg level 31 has enough damage to quickly kill the bosses even at 10 Virulence stacks, but before when he was level 28 I rerolled that mod on my maps.

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Mecielle wrote:

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Mistletoes wrote:

For fights that are entirely single target with no adds, how do you guys keep up the virulence stacks? I've found myself even with 20/20 faster casting and 20 quality Ball Lightning to only be able to keep up around 15-20 stacks.

I can keep full stacks against one enemy.

The only way what you describe is possible is when you run "enemies have x% chance to avoid being poisoned, bleeding" maps. On awakener 8 that mod is closee to 100% chance to avoid in high tier maps, because awakener 8 boosts the effect of map mods by 24%.

I don't run that mod, obviously :D I mean, I run it now, HoAg level 31 has enough damage to quickly kill the bosses even at 10 Virulence stacks, but before when he was level 28 I rerolled that mod on my maps.

Damn. Might just switch to Vile Toxins from Pierce to get a little more DPS in then.

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Mistletoes wrote:

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Mecielle wrote:

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Mistletoes wrote:

For fights that are entirely single target with no adds, how do you guys keep up the virulence stacks? I've found myself even with 20/20 faster casting and 20 quality Ball Lightning to only be able to keep up around 15-20 stacks.

I can keep full stacks against one enemy.

The only way what you describe is possible is when you run "enemies have x% chance to avoid being poisoned, bleeding" maps. On awakener 8 that mod is closee to 100% chance to avoid in high tier maps, because awakener 8 boosts the effect of map mods by 24%.

I don't run that mod, obviously :D I mean, I run it now, HoAg level 31 has enough damage to quickly kill the bosses even at 10 Virulence stacks, but before when he was level 28 I rerolled that mod on my maps.

Damn. Might just switch to Vile Toxins from Pierce to get a little more DPS in then.

Well, it is the only mod, besides no regen, the build can't run without problems as far as I remember. Thats ok. Most builds have more mods they cant run. And even no regen and the no poison mods can be run with a little effort.