[3.10] Herald of Agony Mana Guardian | 2.5 Minute Sirus 8 | Deathless T19 100% Delirium

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Nugsterx wrote:
How do i run hatred and HoA without dropping 5 exalts on a Circle of Nostalgia ring with reduced mana reservation on HoA? i have all the ring talent points.

Is that the only way or am i missing something?
Start with just the reduced mana reserved. That will let you run hatred and skitterbots (depending on HoA supports) Reduced mana reserved and increased damage together is expensive, you can decide what priority that is later.
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Nugsterx wrote:
How do i run hatred and HoA without dropping 5 exalts on a Circle of Nostalgia ring with reduced mana reservation on HoA? i have all the ring talent points.

Is that the only way or am i missing something?


Think it's pretty mandatory. I rerolled my cheap ring with 2 divines and got lucky with 40 reduced reservation.

Another option is to put charisma on your amulet, but it's pretty expensive. You can also run some of the jewels with reduced Mana reservation corrupt and enlighten 4 will also help, though that's even more expensive option ofc.
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Obermaster10 wrote:
So i just tested with annointment and Soul Siphon give more ES then Primal Spirit .. if its just for the ES. Its more expensive tho than Primal Spirit


SS gives you +10 Mana & 18% total mana vs +20Str +20Int & 15% total mana. When I plugged it into my POB it actually dropped my ES by nearly 200ES. Maybe for other people with different builds it would be an increase but it can't be more than 100 maybe 200ES difference between the two and SS is much more expensive.
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Mecielle wrote:
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Nospheratusus wrote:
Hi all, what if use Crown of the Inward Eye?
We lose in survivability, but get 3 times more damage.


Memory Vault is the central item of the build... We don't lose some survivability we lose a literal fuckton by not using it.

My PoB says we lose 2700 ES and 26000 armour, yes twenty-six thousand.

And I don't see how we gain any damage from it. It gives us literally 0 damage, right?


PoB does not add bonuses to damage.
In the game at 8500 mana increases damage by 3.25 times and when we need survival we use granite flask and MS and we can use flesh and stone.
and Yes these are just thoughts...

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Nospheratusus wrote:
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Mecielle wrote:
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Nospheratusus wrote:
Hi all, what if use Crown of the Inward Eye?
We lose in survivability, but get 3 times more damage.


Memory Vault is the central item of the build... We don't lose some survivability we lose a literal fuckton by not using it.

My PoB says we lose 2700 ES and 26000 armour, yes twenty-six thousand.

And I don't see how we gain any damage from it. It gives us literally 0 damage, right?


PoB does not add bonuses to damage.
In the game at 8500 mana increases damage by 3.25 times and when we need survival we use granite flask and MS and we can use flesh and stone.
and Yes these are just thoughts...



My PoB DOES calculate the damage from the Transfigurations, I use the LocalIdentity fork.

And it gives damage based on mana. Not minion damage. The only thing it does is boost my Ball Lightning damage by around 7 times its value.
Last edited by Mecielle#3021 on Jan 5, 2020, 3:32:57 PM
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Mecielle wrote:


My PoB DOES calculate the damage from the Transfigurations, I use the LocalIdentity fork.

And it gives damage based on mana. Not minion damage. The only thing it does is boost my Ball Lightning damage by around 7 times its value.


I don't want to argue with you and convince you of something, just check in the game, not in pob.

In any case all options are good :)
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Nospheratusus wrote:
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Mecielle wrote:


My PoB DOES calculate the damage from the Transfigurations, I use the LocalIdentity fork.

And it gives damage based on mana. Not minion damage. The only thing it does is boost my Ball Lightning damage by around 7 times its value.


I don't want to argue with you and convince you of something, just check in the game, not in pob.

In any case all options are good :)


To be fair there is nothing about minion damage with that helmet. If it increased minion damage there gotta be someone using it on Ninja. Generally speaking unless it explicitly stated minion, minions don't get it.

If you can take a before/after screenshot, and it doubles/triples crawler damage, our build just got a Raider/Scourge arrow variant :)
Last edited by hitmantb#6251 on Jan 5, 2020, 3:56:27 PM
I have some problems with auras, what is the cheapest way to run Hated + skitterbots? I'm using vicius projectile for my agony and have a CoN with 37% reduce at the moment
Considering selling my gear off, if anyone is interested hit me up :)

POB
https://pastebin.com/uVZqMpqT
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Hjelpen93 wrote:
I have some problems with auras, what is the cheapest way to run Hated + skitterbots? I'm using vicius projectile for my agony and have a CoN with 37% reduce at the moment


Corrupt jewels with mana reservation along with conquerers efficiency and enlighten.

You should test it out in pob to find your cheapest solution

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