3.14 KING OF ALL SUMMONERS. Zombies & Skeletons & Spectres on STEROIDS! | League-Start to End-Game

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AndyLovesHisBge wrote:

your profile is not public so it is hard to see what you are doing right or wrong.

Did you make sure you took the Sovereignty cluster on the tree?

I am running the following in the 6 link chest:

*Enlighten Level 3 - Pride - Discipline - Dread Banner - Flesh and Stone - Maim

*Vulnerability curse is on my corrupted gloves.

I don't use any extra mana reservation besides the Sovereignty cluster on the tree.

It's open now, sorry.

Yes I took everything exactly from the guide (newbie&tanky) trees and I think there is no problem, because even PoB shows -6% mana if Enlighten gem have only 3 lvl (I should have checked it first lol). I can’t buy 4 lvl gem yet (I need to buy 4 lvl empower first at least) so I think how to mapping until this moment. So far I left discipline in the socket yet (cause don’t want repaint it for flesh and stone) and for the free 22% mana I took aspect of the avian (which is not very effective with Geofri's, but let it be).

PS: checked the Impale damage vs 20 lvl minion damage stones - why PoB shows almost -30% DPS difference for Impale? Is it some kind of mistake? Looks terribly.

About the discipline - I was interested because in PoB skills it was inactive, unlike the Vaal Discipline. So I think maybe ONLY Vaal Discipline is commonly used in all builds? Thats why I decided ask about it cause I try it for the first time.

UPD: I decided to repaint the socket and use flesh and stone. Everything works fine and I have enough mana (about 80 ~1%) for active skills. I’ll leave it like that for now.

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sjoensen wrote:

I tryed this build after a fail build, and I really like it, I have all the armor, gems and almost all jewels that are recomended.. but my problem is I get 1 hit killed vs bosses alot any tips ?

Your characters are currently hidden. You'll need to make these public so we can see your gear and tree in order to be able to help you.

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JCOH35 wrote:

@Cyrom

Ya idk, we get a built in 20% chance to maim on hit with attacks anyways with the Vulnerability, I never really saw a dps loss when I dropped that, or from when I even ran flesh and stone linked with maim support.

Im sure it shows in PoB but again, I dont use it, so many people obsess over number crunching in there, I just dont see the need when we already kill everything in 3-5 seconds. Im just trying to be as tanky as possible to get these last 2 levels without losing exp.

Maim from vulnerability only does this: Maim is a debuff that applies 30% reduced movement speed on the affected target for 4 seconds. Maim Support gives the "enemies will then take increased physical damage" Since u are searching for a usefull 6th gem in ur Cyclone and i havent seen u use a gem yet that increases ur survivability but are putting a gem in there that has a 20% chance to shock wich gives u more dps aswell so why not just put Maim in there then?

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Owari92 wrote:

About the discipline - I was interested because in PoB skills it was inactive, unlike the Vaal Discipline. So I think maybe ONLY Vaal Discipline is commonly used in all builds? Thats why I decided ask about it cause I try it for the first time.

UPD: I decided to repaint the socket and use flesh and stone. Everything works fine and I have enough mana (about 80 ~1%) for active skills. I’ll leave it like that for now.

regular discipline is used in the builds. It is an important source of ES.

The build guide calls for a level 4 Enlighten to run that specific set of auras. Since you were trying to do it with a level 3, that was most likely your problem.

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Owari92 wrote:

PS: checked the Impale damage vs 20 lvl minion damage stones - why PoB shows almost -30% DPS difference for Impale? Is it some kind of mistake? Looks terribly.

the standard version of POB does not calculate Impale. You need to use the fork version in case you are not already

Here is how to install the fork version. It is very simple if you already have the regular version loaded

https://github.com/LocalIdentity/PathOfBuilding/wiki/Installing-this-Fork

@Cyrom

Ya you guys were right, was just over thinking it, already changed it earlier;

If swapping vulnerability from the chest to the gloves, and also dropping blasphemy, what would be the best replacement? Pride is an option, then? I think I would probably be out of mana.. Also what hit would then proc vulnerability? Cyclone?

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AndyLovesHisBge wrote:

regular discipline is used in the builds. It is an important source of ES.

The build guide calls for a level 4 Enlighten to run that specific set of auras. Since you were trying to do it with a level 3, that was most likely your problem.

Thanks for the answers. I didnt mean that the problem in the build but just interested in all intermediate stages because it is not always possible to buy everything at the same time. And it's interesting to try everything by yourself although often is quite expensive lmao.

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AndyLovesHisBge wrote:

Here is how to install the fork version. It is very simple if you already have the regular version loaded

https://github.com/LocalIdentity/PathOfBuilding/wiki/Installing-this-Fork

Ok ty, i will try it later.

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JCOH35 wrote:

@Cyrom

Ya you guys were right, was just over thinking it, already changed it earlier;

You should pop in an Awakened Cast While Channeling. :^)

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Korr4K wrote:

If swapping vulnerability from the chest to the gloves, and also dropping blasphemy, what would be the best replacement? Pride is an option, then? I think I would probably be out of mana.. Also what hit would then proc vulnerability? Cyclone?

Here is what I am running.

Vulnerability in gloves proced by Cyclone. Just spin through the enemies and all will be cursed.

In chest: Pride - Discipline - Flesh and Stone - Maim - Dread Banner - Enlighten Level 3

Always stay in blood stance for Flesh and Stone.