3.14 KING OF ALL SUMMONERS. Zombies & Skeletons & Spectres on STEROIDS! | League-Start to End-Game

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JCOH35 wrote:

@Cyrom

Ya idk, we get a built in 20% chance to maim on hit with attacks anyways with the Vulnerability, I never really saw a dps loss when I dropped that, or from when I even ran flesh and stone linked with maim support.

Im sure it shows in PoB but again, I dont use it, so many people obsess over number crunching in there, I just dont see the need when we already kill everything in 3-5 seconds. Im just trying to be as tanky as possible to get these last 2 levels without losing exp.

Maim from vulnerability only does this: Maim is a debuff that applies 30% reduced movement speed on the affected target for 4 seconds. Maim Support gives the "enemies will then take increased physical damage" Since u are searching for a usefull 6th gem in ur Cyclone and i havent seen u use a gem yet that increases ur survivability but are putting a gem in there that has a 20% chance to shock wich gives u more dps aswell so why not just put Maim in there then?

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Owari92 wrote:

About the discipline - I was interested because in PoB skills it was inactive, unlike the Vaal Discipline. So I think maybe ONLY Vaal Discipline is commonly used in all builds? Thats why I decided ask about it cause I try it for the first time.

UPD: I decided to repaint the socket and use flesh and stone. Everything works fine and I have enough mana (about 80 ~1%) for active skills. I’ll leave it like that for now.

regular discipline is used in the builds. It is an important source of ES.

The build guide calls for a level 4 Enlighten to run that specific set of auras. Since you were trying to do it with a level 3, that was most likely your problem.

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Owari92 wrote:

PS: checked the Impale damage vs 20 lvl minion damage stones - why PoB shows almost -30% DPS difference for Impale? Is it some kind of mistake? Looks terribly.

the standard version of POB does not calculate Impale. You need to use the fork version in case you are not already

Here is how to install the fork version. It is very simple if you already have the regular version loaded

https://github.com/LocalIdentity/PathOfBuilding/wiki/Installing-this-Fork

@Cyrom

Ya you guys were right, was just over thinking it, already changed it earlier;

If swapping vulnerability from the chest to the gloves, and also dropping blasphemy, what would be the best replacement? Pride is an option, then? I think I would probably be out of mana.. Also what hit would then proc vulnerability? Cyclone?

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AndyLovesHisBge wrote:

regular discipline is used in the builds. It is an important source of ES.

The build guide calls for a level 4 Enlighten to run that specific set of auras. Since you were trying to do it with a level 3, that was most likely your problem.

Thanks for the answers. I didnt mean that the problem in the build but just interested in all intermediate stages because it is not always possible to buy everything at the same time. And it's interesting to try everything by yourself although often is quite expensive lmao.

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AndyLovesHisBge wrote:

Here is how to install the fork version. It is very simple if you already have the regular version loaded

https://github.com/LocalIdentity/PathOfBuilding/wiki/Installing-this-Fork

Ok ty, i will try it later.

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JCOH35 wrote:

@Cyrom

Ya you guys were right, was just over thinking it, already changed it earlier;

You should pop in an Awakened Cast While Channeling. :^)

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Korr4K wrote:

If swapping vulnerability from the chest to the gloves, and also dropping blasphemy, what would be the best replacement? Pride is an option, then? I think I would probably be out of mana.. Also what hit would then proc vulnerability? Cyclone?

Here is what I am running.

Vulnerability in gloves proced by Cyclone. Just spin through the enemies and all will be cursed.

In chest: Pride - Discipline - Flesh and Stone - Maim - Dread Banner - Enlighten Level 3

Always stay in blood stance for Flesh and Stone.

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Korr4K wrote:

If swapping vulnerability from the chest to the gloves, and also dropping blasphemy, what would be the best replacement? Pride is an option, then? I think I would probably be out of mana.. Also what hit would then proc vulnerability? Cyclone?

Any hit that you do will apply Vulnerability from gloves, so probably Cyclone.

Your characters are private, so I can't see what you're running currently; Pride is generally one of the auras you run anyway - what do you have instead?

Blasphemy is a 35% reduction, so you can fit in Skitterbots, Discipline, or Purity of Elements, which are all 35%; or Avian or Flesh and Stone, which are 25%.

Hey Guys,

thanks OP for the nice guide!! I'm level 94 right now, but Metamorph bosses in T16 maps need some time though.

So i want to upgrade my gear now. As there are so many posts in this thread every day, and the build/gear has changed since i last looked at it, i'm a bit lost, what to upgrade next. I would REALLY appreciate any help!!

Here is my gear: (alternatively this is my pastebin: https://pastebin.com/BAiP5Mtn)


I have seen that now the Saqawals chest is used, but i would need an appropriate weapon to trigger it, right? I neither have the currency to buy or craft both of those items.

I'm sitting at 1.039 strength.. nearly everyone is sitting at 1.500+ and i also don't know how to improve it. I once had a "Brawn" jewel, but i increased my strength like max. 70 or something..

Are there any upgrades for me beyond 10+ exalted orbs to spend?

Any help and recommendation is welcome :)
thanks!