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edit: one more question regarding PoB: i have 5%chance to shock from Holy Dominion Passive, wich i need for my 15% str lethal pride.
as i see it, this only applies to my cyclones, so what do i configure in PoB fork for this?
you don't configure it because you don't shock. for one, you have no lightning damage to even proc a shock. and two, you deal no way near enough dmg to ever shock, even if you did deal some lightning damage
allright, thank you! i should read up on basic PoE mechanics!
the best way to shock in this build if you want is by using Skitterbots.
If you use skitterbots, then you can add 20 to shock effect in POB Fork's configuration.
edit: one more question regarding PoB: i have 5%chance to shock from Holy Dominion Passive, wich i need for my 15% str lethal pride.
as i see it, this only applies to my cyclones, so what do i configure in PoB fork for this?
you don't configure it because you don't shock. for one, you have no lightning damage to even proc a shock. and two, you deal no way near enough dmg to ever shock, even if you did deal some lightning damage
allright, thank you! i should read up on basic PoE mechanics!
in short, you need to deal large amounts of lightning damage to hit the max shock effectiveness. crits with lightning damage always shock, non-crits go by the shock chance. the minimum is 0.2% of the enemies max hp in a hit, but that will only be 1% effectiveness of shock, which is basically useless. max effectiveness of 50% shock requires hits of 10% of the enemies hp, something which you will never achieve with this build, especially on bosses.
so for example, shaper has 74m HP. to fully shock him you need to deal 7.4m lightning damage in one hit. but he also has 50% lightning resist so without pen you'll need double that. you probably deal about 3 damage per cyclone so it will never happen. only way around this is via skitterbots, or elementalist/scion ascendency
i use flamedash just for quality of life. holy relic really makes me feel more safe, so i will give switching out flamedash a chance, thank you very much.
i recently switched to a way more defensive approach, since each of my 17 zombies is at 360k impale dps with only pride and banner as offensive auras.
in PoB (just installed the fork for the first time...) we only set withered stacks to 6, right?
edit: one more question regarding PoB: i have 5%chance to shock from Holy Dominion Passive, wich i need for my 15% str lethal pride.
as i see it, this only applies to my cyclones, so what do i configure in PoB fork for this?
If you want to apply the shock debuff to increase enemie's damage taken you have to run Summon Skitterbots (35% mana reserved) or run something similar to me in your cyclone link;
i could replace my fortify with shock nova and finally get a kingmaker for the fortify defensive buff.. with shocknova, i can set "Effect of Shock" to 15 in PoB fork? that would be an insane dps improvement.
i use flamedash just for quality of life. holy relic really makes me feel more safe, so i will give switching out flamedash a chance, thank you very much.
i recently switched to a way more defensive approach, since each of my 17 zombies is at 360k impale dps with only pride and banner as offensive auras.
in PoB (just installed the fork for the first time...) we only set withered stacks to 6, right?
edit: one more question regarding PoB: i have 5%chance to shock from Holy Dominion Passive, wich i need for my 15% str lethal pride.
as i see it, this only applies to my cyclones, so what do i configure in PoB fork for this?
Actually, looking at your necromancer you run almost an identical variant to me, have you ever tried switching to the;
It will let you drop your movement skill all together opening more sockets and you can then super sayian that relic that you like (I love mine too);
Not to mention you will get a free 2nd annointment and cyclone at 150% movement speed, also removes the need for a speed flask.
Last edited by JCOH35#4078 on Feb 6, 2020, 9:34:04 AM
i use flamedash just for quality of life. holy relic really makes me feel more safe, so i will give switching out flamedash a chance, thank you very much.
i recently switched to a way more defensive approach, since each of my 17 zombies is at 360k impale dps with only pride and banner as offensive auras.
in PoB (just installed the fork for the first time...) we only set withered stacks to 6, right?
edit: one more question regarding PoB: i have 5%chance to shock from Holy Dominion Passive, wich i need for my 15% str lethal pride.
as i see it, this only applies to my cyclones, so what do i configure in PoB fork for this?
If you want to apply the shock debuff to increase enemie's damage taken you have to run Summon Skitterbots (35% mana reserved) or run something similar to me in your cyclone link;
pretty sure you won't be shocking with that setup. you are not dealing anywhere enough damage in a single hit for it proc. maybe against trash mobs with super low base hp you might hit the minimum effectiveness of 1% (which is useless), but any kind of elite or boss has too much hp for you to apply anything
Last edited by crazypearce#3760 on Feb 6, 2020, 9:36:02 AM
i use flamedash just for quality of life. holy relic really makes me feel more safe, so i will give switching out flamedash a chance, thank you very much.
i recently switched to a way more defensive approach, since each of my 17 zombies is at 360k impale dps with only pride and banner as offensive auras.
in PoB (just installed the fork for the first time...) we only set withered stacks to 6, right?
edit: one more question regarding PoB: i have 5%chance to shock from Holy Dominion Passive, wich i need for my 15% str lethal pride.
as i see it, this only applies to my cyclones, so what do i configure in PoB fork for this?
Actually, looking at your necromancer you run almost an identical variant to me, have you ever tried switching to the;
It will let you drop your movement skill all together opening more sockets and you can then super sayian that relic that you like (I love mine too);
Not to mention you will get a free 2nd annointment and cyclone at 150% movement speed, also removes the need for a speed flask.
i tried the boots and liked them. however, i finally reached 1800 str and wont be able to get there without my alberons currently.
also @crazypearce thank you very much for the insight.
@AndyLovesHisBge i cant fit in skitterbots right now, sadly.
Last edited by paranoiah#4600 on Feb 6, 2020, 9:37:18 AM
Ya its tricky, im at 1,804 without using any extra nodes in tree for out of the way lethal pride targets but as I said, its really hard hitting 1.8 with no STR boots and astramentis.
Regarding the shock, shock nova and arc give you a set % to apply shock debuff seperate from the base mechanic of applying it with a % of damage done, atleast thats what I have been told b/c arc and nova were recommended to me.
(also shows in PoB a 25% chance to apply shock debuff for me with my nova so idk, I was told use arc for mapping for the debuff, nova for bosses)
Last edited by JCOH35#4078 on Feb 6, 2020, 9:51:25 AM
"Any effect/passive that grants +x% chance to shock when dealt lightning damage will give you the ability to have that x% chance to shock without critting. Arc has a built in 10% chance, static blows gives +10% chance for any lightning damage."
Is what ive found over and over when looking into the topic, b/c again, I was told to try arc or nova aswell to specifially apply the debuff.
So my nova should have a seperate 20% chance to apply the debuff regardless of the amount of damage it does, and there are also multiple nodes in the skill tree that allow any amount or non-crit damage of a specific type to inflict the matching status ailment.
Last edited by JCOH35#4078 on Feb 6, 2020, 10:13:56 AM
But I find my build(currently running the tanky setup)having difficulties doing no regen maps, too.
here's my build: https://pastebin.com/npFHg1Lt
I pretty much copied n pasted the gear of the tanky setup(except for the shitty weapon since I haven't earned enough currency:/).
Is there anything i'm doing wrong or is no regen simply a no go mod for this build, too?
Last edited by photon0113#3292 on Feb 6, 2020, 10:24:24 AM
Ya its tricky, im at 1,804 without using any extra nodes in tree for out of the way lethal pride targets but as I said, its really hard hitting 1.8 with no STR boots and astramentis.
Regarding the shock, shock nova and arc give you a set % to apply shock debuff seperate from the base mechanic of applying it with a % of damage done, atleast thats what I have been told b/c arc and nova were recommended to me.
(also shows in PoB a 25% chance to apply shock debuff for me with my nova so idk, I was told use arc for mapping for the debuff, nova for bosses)
How much str do you lose with +55str and %10 inc str boots compared To alberon's?
Red Arc mtx is beautiful. Shocknova Will start hurting your Eyes if U use too long. You can also try coldsnap if U are bored or need something more defensive.
