3.14 KING OF ALL SUMMONERS. Zombies & Skeletons & Spectres on STEROIDS! | League-Start to End-Game

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JCOH35 wrote:
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paranoiah wrote:
i use flamedash just for quality of life. holy relic really makes me feel more safe, so i will give switching out flamedash a chance, thank you very much.

i recently switched to a way more defensive approach, since each of my 17 zombies is at 360k impale dps with only pride and banner as offensive auras.

in PoB (just installed the fork for the first time...) we only set withered stacks to 6, right?

edit: one more question regarding PoB: i have 5%chance to shock from Holy Dominion Passive, wich i need for my 15% str lethal pride.
as i see it, this only applies to my cyclones, so what do i configure in PoB fork for this?


If you want to apply the shock debuff to increase enemie's damage taken you have to run Summon Skitterbots (35% mana reserved) or run something similar to me in your cyclone link;



i could replace my fortify with shock nova and finally get a kingmaker for the fortify defensive buff.. with shocknova, i can set "Effect of Shock" to 15 in PoB fork? that would be an insane dps improvement.
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paranoiah wrote:
i use flamedash just for quality of life. holy relic really makes me feel more safe, so i will give switching out flamedash a chance, thank you very much.

i recently switched to a way more defensive approach, since each of my 17 zombies is at 360k impale dps with only pride and banner as offensive auras.

in PoB (just installed the fork for the first time...) we only set withered stacks to 6, right?

edit: one more question regarding PoB: i have 5%chance to shock from Holy Dominion Passive, wich i need for my 15% str lethal pride.
as i see it, this only applies to my cyclones, so what do i configure in PoB fork for this?


Actually, looking at your necromancer you run almost an identical variant to me, have you ever tried switching to the;



It will let you drop your movement skill all together opening more sockets and you can then super sayian that relic that you like (I love mine too);



Not to mention you will get a free 2nd annointment and cyclone at 150% movement speed, also removes the need for a speed flask.
Last edited by JCOH35#4078 on Feb 6, 2020, 9:34:04 AM
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JCOH35 wrote:
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paranoiah wrote:
i use flamedash just for quality of life. holy relic really makes me feel more safe, so i will give switching out flamedash a chance, thank you very much.

i recently switched to a way more defensive approach, since each of my 17 zombies is at 360k impale dps with only pride and banner as offensive auras.

in PoB (just installed the fork for the first time...) we only set withered stacks to 6, right?

edit: one more question regarding PoB: i have 5%chance to shock from Holy Dominion Passive, wich i need for my 15% str lethal pride.
as i see it, this only applies to my cyclones, so what do i configure in PoB fork for this?


If you want to apply the shock debuff to increase enemie's damage taken you have to run Summon Skitterbots (35% mana reserved) or run something similar to me in your cyclone link;



pretty sure you won't be shocking with that setup. you are not dealing anywhere enough damage in a single hit for it proc. maybe against trash mobs with super low base hp you might hit the minimum effectiveness of 1% (which is useless), but any kind of elite or boss has too much hp for you to apply anything
Last edited by crazypearce#3760 on Feb 6, 2020, 9:36:02 AM
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JCOH35 wrote:
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paranoiah wrote:
i use flamedash just for quality of life. holy relic really makes me feel more safe, so i will give switching out flamedash a chance, thank you very much.

i recently switched to a way more defensive approach, since each of my 17 zombies is at 360k impale dps with only pride and banner as offensive auras.

in PoB (just installed the fork for the first time...) we only set withered stacks to 6, right?

edit: one more question regarding PoB: i have 5%chance to shock from Holy Dominion Passive, wich i need for my 15% str lethal pride.
as i see it, this only applies to my cyclones, so what do i configure in PoB fork for this?


Actually, looking at your necromancer you run almost an identical variant to me, have you ever tried switching to the;



It will let you drop your movement skill all together opening more sockets and you can then super sayian that relic that you like (I love mine too);



Not to mention you will get a free 2nd annointment and cyclone at 150% movement speed, also removes the need for a speed flask.


i tried the boots and liked them. however, i finally reached 1800 str and wont be able to get there without my alberons currently.

also @crazypearce thank you very much for the insight.
@AndyLovesHisBge i cant fit in skitterbots right now, sadly.
Last edited by paranoiah#4600 on Feb 6, 2020, 9:37:18 AM
Ya its tricky, im at 1,804 without using any extra nodes in tree for out of the way lethal pride targets but as I said, its really hard hitting 1.8 with no STR boots and astramentis.

Regarding the shock, shock nova and arc give you a set % to apply shock debuff seperate from the base mechanic of applying it with a % of damage done, atleast thats what I have been told b/c arc and nova were recommended to me.

(also shows in PoB a 25% chance to apply shock debuff for me with my nova so idk, I was told use arc for mapping for the debuff, nova for bosses)
Last edited by JCOH35#4078 on Feb 6, 2020, 9:51:25 AM
"Any effect/passive that grants +x% chance to shock when dealt lightning damage will give you the ability to have that x% chance to shock without critting. Arc has a built in 10% chance, static blows gives +10% chance for any lightning damage."

Is what ive found over and over when looking into the topic, b/c again, I was told to try arc or nova aswell to specifially apply the debuff.

So my nova should have a seperate 20% chance to apply the debuff regardless of the amount of damage it does, and there are also multiple nodes in the skill tree that allow any amount or non-crit damage of a specific type to inflict the matching status ailment.
Last edited by JCOH35#4078 on Feb 6, 2020, 10:13:56 AM
In the Pros and cons section:
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brunowa wrote:
All map mods (except Phys reflect)

But I find my build(currently running the tanky setup)having difficulties doing no regen maps, too.
here's my build: https://pastebin.com/npFHg1Lt
I pretty much copied n pasted the gear of the tanky setup(except for the shitty weapon since I haven't earned enough currency:/).
Is there anything i'm doing wrong or is no regen simply a no go mod for this build, too?
Last edited by photon0113#3292 on Feb 6, 2020, 10:24:24 AM
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JCOH35 wrote:
Ya its tricky, im at 1,804 without using any extra nodes in tree for out of the way lethal pride targets but as I said, its really hard hitting 1.8 with no STR boots and astramentis.

Regarding the shock, shock nova and arc give you a set % to apply shock debuff seperate from the base mechanic of applying it with a % of damage done, atleast thats what I have been told b/c arc and nova were recommended to me.

(also shows in PoB a 25% chance to apply shock debuff for me with my nova so idk, I was told use arc for mapping for the debuff, nova for bosses)


How much str do you lose with +55str and %10 inc str boots compared To alberon's?
Red Arc mtx is beautiful. Shocknova Will start hurting your Eyes if U use too long. You can also try coldsnap if U are bored or need something more defensive.
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Cruonit wrote:
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JCOH35 wrote:
Ya its tricky, im at 1,804 without using any extra nodes in tree for out of the way lethal pride targets but as I said, its really hard hitting 1.8 with no STR boots and astramentis.

Regarding the shock, shock nova and arc give you a set % to apply shock debuff seperate from the base mechanic of applying it with a % of damage done, atleast thats what I have been told b/c arc and nova were recommended to me.

(also shows in PoB a 25% chance to apply shock debuff for me with my nova so idk, I was told use arc for mapping for the debuff, nova for bosses)


How much str do you lose with +55str and %10 inc str boots compared To alberon's?
Red Arc mtx is beautiful. Shocknova Will start hurting your Eyes if U use too long. You can also try coldsnap if U are bored or need something more defensive.


Im still open to suggestions on the last link in my cyclone setup. I really liked soulrend but it noticably slows down your cyclone, even in The Stampede but I am pretty sure shock nova shocks, now to be fair Crazy could also be right and the shock duration could be miniscule and not worth it, ill wait for a more certain answer on that.

I never worried about the loss of STR, I faceroll content in nearly the same time with 1,300 or 2,600 STR, ive run the entire range now and have felt very little difference.

This is my current STR/Speed on A8 Content;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9at04iKKlIg

However its not that much different from when I dropped all the way down to 1,300 just to see what it would look like.

I think there are other factors dramatically affecting dps b/c some of the people at 2 or even 2.5k STR with more zombies are having less dps, and im barely even over 200% minion damage modifier, I sit at like 215.

So theres something that I use that must be significantly stronger but I couldnt tell you what, thats why I always link my current setups b/c I get all my stuff from sampling other peoples's builds and seeing what works for them.
Last edited by JCOH35#4078 on Feb 6, 2020, 10:31:52 AM
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Kumbas wrote:
Hi guys,

I have a question about the balanced version with aspect of Avian. Sadly I dont have Aul's Uprising with pride mana no reservation. How to squeeze Hatred, Dread Banner and Pride ? to this set up ? Important to add I wont be using Purity of elements since i dont have watchers eye for it. Please help :) Is it possible?

I run this version right now. My auras are Hatred, Pride, and Dread Banner with Enlighten and Awakened Generosity in there. I tossed Convocation in the link because I ran out of mana to reserve.

You can check out my character, it should be public. I use Flesh and Stone with Maim over Avian as a preference, but you can use Avian instead if you want - it actually reserves less mana.

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