3.14 KING OF ALL SUMMONERS. Zombies & Skeletons & Spectres on STEROIDS! | League-Start to End-Game

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Fiskaflesket wrote:

Guys gotta ask... Tried to make an amu for my CI build, but failed ofc..
Result:

still worth some? Or should i annul and pray for cast% to get recked?

Or maybe: block suffix, scour, multimod

You'll loosa dmg as extra but you'll be able to craft 20% energy shield § flat ES which will leave on open prefix.

Not sure, it worth it but let us know.

Finally bought 6L mace with Fortify and the Aspect of the Avian (14 exs lol) but screwed up again - I saw a bunch of necromancers which are running with Fortify permanently so I expected the same, but in fact minions get fortify only during a melee attack for a short time and not all at the same time (in gem's description appeared line about getting Fortify by minions during a melee attacks). Probably before I saw the Fortify buff effect from AG?

PS: ran a couple of T16 maps and that build is amazing. Even though map clear speed has changed not much the bosses die in a few seconds and this is only the beginning of the main build (just weapon with +impale and buffs).

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Fiskaflesket wrote:

Guys gotta ask... Tried to make an amu for my CI build, but failed ofc..
Result:

still worth some? Or should i annul and pray for cast% to get recked?

If you're going to do anything, lock suffixes and scour. None of your prefixes are useful if you're going to use it with this build (you can craft life back on later, nbd). From there, if you want to yolo annul, go for it. 33% chance, then you can either multimod or craft strength and slam repeatedly.

If you manage to hit the annul and want to slam, I'd highly recommend using Intrinsic Catalysts to bump up the quality, which will slightly affect the weighting of mods and slightly increase the chance that you hit either Strength or Attributes.

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Osgili4th wrote:

Hello again, I was messing around with things and wonder if without Saqawal's Nest,Aspect of the Spider is a better option over Avian. Since the buff of Avian are only up few seconds but Spider give always 15% increased dmg in boss fight and methamorphs and in maps can give an extra layer of defense with the slow from hinder.

Yes, I don't recommend Avian unless you have Saqawals.

Other options are better such as Spider like you mentioned, or simply flesh and stone freeing up the suffix or picking a few extra reduced mana nodes and adding skitterbots, as examples.

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brunowa wrote:

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Osgili4th wrote:

Hello again, I was messing around with things and wonder if without Saqawal's Nest,Aspect of the Spider is a better option over Avian. Since the buff of Avian are only up few seconds but Spider give always 15% increased dmg in boss fight and methamorphs and in maps can give an extra layer of defense with the slow from hinder.

Yes, I don't recommend Avian unless you have Saqawals.

Other options are better such as Spider like you mentioned, or simply flesh and stone freeing up the suffix or picking a few extra reduced mana nodes and adding skitterbots, as examples.

Thanks for answer! I currently have Pride, Flesh and Stone with Maim, Purity of Elements and Dread Banner with the option for an Aspect. I was using Avian but today I was thinking about Spider as superior option.

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brunowa wrote:

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EC_Zarkas wrote:

Do you think this build is going to be nerfed into oblivion next patch?

I started late and I would really like to push it far in another league.

People were scared of the same thing back in 3.8 and GGG nerfed us hardcore... but we still kickass ;D

There will definitely be some kind of nerf.. last time they hit Zombies directly. This time they will probably hit the Necro ascendencies and Spirit Offering and perhaps even the Baron itself.

Its hard to say because so many things are powerful in the build. Zombies just being generally strong, how easy a +3 fortify weapon is, how lethal prides add a ton of str, str stacking in general, geofris + shapers touch with stat stacking, extra zombies with Baron helm.

My guess would be a nerf with how easy it is to stack strength. You can reach 1500 with very little investment, which is insane. Make that harder and everything in the build gets a little weaker

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Osgili4th wrote:

Thanks for answer! I currently have Pride, Flesh and Stone with Maim, Purity of Elements and Dread Banner with the option for an Aspect. I was using Avian but today I was thinking about Spider as superior option.

No harm trying it.

What I would do is simply buy the cheapest ring or Ammy I can find with spider on it and simply test how it feels. If you like it, then craft it onto a piece of your gear... But test it first to ensure you like it so you don't waste the suffix.

https://pastebin.com/e47fVSeE

do i need an upgrade? thanks for the advice <3

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crazypearce wrote:

Its hard to say because so many things are powerful in the build. Zombies just being generally strong, how easy a +3 fortify weapon is, how lethal prides add a ton of str, str stacking in general, geofris + shapers touch with stat stacking, extra zombies with Baron helm.

My guess would be a nerf with how easy it is to stack strength. You can reach 1500 with very little investment, which is insane. Make that harder and everything in the build gets a little weaker

I think taking ascendency from +2 to all minion gems to +1 is something they would look at. This makes getting level 30 zombies much harder but it is an across the board Necro nerf so may punish other Necro builds too much.

They could easily make the current Baron legacy by changing some stats, such as making leech effective from 1200 instead of 1000, or reducing leech to 1% instead of 2%. They could even change it from an extra zombie every 300 strength to every 400 strength, as examples, or a combination of above.

Mistress of sacrifice and spirit offering combo I'm pretty sure will be looked at.

Lethal prides won't be touched because they are a great currency sink. To get good strength there is a big gamble in divines which is fine. And I doubt shapers or Geofri's will be looked at as I don't see anything wrong or OP about them.

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Owari92 wrote:

Finally bought 6L mace with Fortify and the Aspect of the Avian (14 exs lol) but screwed up again - I saw a bunch of necromancers which are running with Fortify permanently so I expected the same, but in fact minions get fortify only during a melee attack for a short time and not all at the same time (in gem's description appeared line about getting Fortify by minions during a melee attacks). Probably before I saw the Fortify buff effect from AG?

I think because the Zombies use melee sporadically, the Fortify buff happens occasionally.

But remember, Fortify Support is not being used only for the Fortify buff, it is being used more prominently for this stat:

Supported Skills deal 20% more Melee Damage



It is the AG that is used (via Kingmaker) to keep the Fortify buff (the defensive buff) up more consistently.