Minecraft creator and fellow Exile Notch banned from 10 year anniversary celebration for wrongthink

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Boem wrote:

Is such behavior offensive, yes.

Is such behavior illegal, nope.

Which is notable why, exactly? I'm not a court, I'm not limited to only thinking in terms of legality. If we were only discussing legality this entire thread wouldn't have existed in the first place.

Why is it notable?

Because we are never going to get rid of bigotry.

As long as they don't escalate into violence or assaults they are a non-issue in human life.

People automatically fall back to group-think and discernment under pressure don't think you can get rid of millions of years of evolution because people decided some months ago words physically hurt.
Which i don't prescribe to and find insulting/demeaning to the people being taught.

Peace,

-Boem-

Right, and we're never going to get rid of burglary, but importantly, we still have laws against it and police to enforce them.

It doesn't matter that perfection is unattainable. That's of literally zero importance. What matters is that we can improve upon the current state of things. We can make people's lives a bit better. If we choose to actually care.

Bigotry does escalate into violence and assaults. It also contributes to mental health issues and suicide. It leads to employment discrimination, electoral discrimination; to failures of health, education and justice systems and so on.

It's nice that bigotry is a non-issue for you, but you aren't the spokesperson for human life.

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GusTheCrocodile wrote:

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Boem wrote:

As for the other part, you started this with the homophobia and transphobia comment, not me. I'm just interested how people can have prejudice towards people based on sexual orientation when it's not visible on the outside.

Nobody said anything about it not being visible. I just noted that the topic touched on homophobia, transphobia etc, and you responded by saying that where I live people must be able to smell sexual orientation. It made no sense whatsoever.

Is it just me or was the 'Smell of Homosexuals' one of the more bizarre moments in Path of Exile Off-Topic discussions?

;)

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Boem wrote:

Why is it notable?

Because we are never going to get rid of bigotry.

As long as they don't escalate into violence or assaults they are a non-issue in human life.

Extremely wrong. Words can destroy someone like nothing else can.

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faerwin wrote:

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Boem wrote:

Why is it notable?

Because we are never going to get rid of bigotry.

As long as they don't escalate into violence or assaults they are a non-issue in human life.

Extremely wrong. Words can destroy someone like nothing else can.

No they cannot, people can allow words to destroy themselves like nothing else can.

See the difference.

Peace,

-Boem-

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rojimboo wrote:

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GusTheCrocodile wrote:

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Boem wrote:

As for the other part, you started this with the homophobia and transphobia comment, not me. I'm just interested how people can have prejudice towards people based on sexual orientation when it's not visible on the outside.

Nobody said anything about it not being visible. I just noted that the topic touched on homophobia, transphobia etc, and you responded by saying that where I live people must be able to smell sexual orientation. It made no sense whatsoever.

Is it just me or was the 'Smell of Homosexuals' one of the more bizarre moments in Path of Exile Off-Topic discussions?

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Sight, smell, sound etc etc

I still haven't gotten an answer how you identify a gay/trans person just by his outwards appearance.

Unless of course he is signaling it intentionally, in which case "fair game" comes into it.

Just like a women wearing make-up and a miniskirt might get the prejudice thrown towards her that she is promiscuous.
Or a muscled man with tatoo's on his arm might get prejudice thrown towards him about his intellectual capacity.

etc etc

People are going to judge with as many or as little atributes as they can perceive.

It's up to you to decide wether you care about that judgement and if it's in your interest to change it.

Peace,

-Boem-

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Boem wrote:

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faerwin wrote:

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Boem wrote:

Why is it notable?

Because we are never going to get rid of bigotry.

As long as they don't escalate into violence or assaults they are a non-issue in human life.

Extremely wrong. Words can destroy someone like nothing else can.

No they cannot, people can allow words to destroy themselves like nothing else can.

See the difference.

Peace,

-Boem-

You are so wrong it's not even funny.

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GusTheCrocodile wrote:

Right, and we're never going to get rid of burglary, but importantly, we still have laws against it and police to enforce them.

It doesn't matter that perfection is unattainable. That's of literally zero importance. What matters is that we can improve upon the current state of things. We can make people's lives a bit better. If we choose to actually care.

Bigotry does escalate into violence and assaults. It also contributes to mental health issues and suicide. It leads to employment discrimination, electoral discrimination; to failures of health, education and justice systems and so on.

It's nice that bigotry is a non-issue for you, but you aren't the spokesperson for human life.

We already have laws in place against assault and against discrimination.

As for the other factors i haven't seen any proof of that or how one kind of prejudice is at a higher objective danger then others.

I've seen people blow up numbers of hate crimes and of actual dysmorphic population ratio's to extremes etc but nothing of actual objective relevance so far.
Just like scrotie hinted, anybody will get discriminated when he moves in between social groups from one to the other depending on shared traits.

And there is very little wrong with that, because most people once you start talking easily go "oh wait, prejudice wasn't spot on" and that's the age we live in.

If they don't, get new friends or change your suroundings don't expect the world to change on your behalf that's only going to rile opposition to your worldview.

Dialogue usually cuts prejudice like a knife true butter if both party's act in good-faith.

Peace,

-Boem-

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faerwin wrote:

You are so wrong it's not even funny.

I'm going to need a bit more then that if you actually wanna make a point.

For example my argument is that antifragility is a thing and victim ideology damages humans psychologically and long therm because it renders them incapable of the tools to combat ideological disputes and differences.

And i don't really have to back up antifragility since it's the best working tool to combat mental health trauma's to date.

Peace,

-Boem-

edit : look faerwin, i will give you a real life example of how antifragil people look like.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QRm4nTIp7I4

I'm not into that kind of human who will behave in bad-faith against anybody that doesn't align with their view or party-line.