Minecraft creator and fellow Exile Notch banned from 10 year anniversary celebration for wrongthink

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rojimboo wrote:

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ScrotieMcB wrote:

Of course it's not a surprise. But your method for doing so sucks.

ARe you talking about quotas and affirmative action? Because I dislike that too, but in places where equality of opportunity does not exist (hello Murica) it is needed surely, to compensated for the gross inequalities.

Please stop slandering the United States to promote your vile ethnocommunism.

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ScrotieMcB wrote:

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rojimboo wrote:

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ScrotieMcB wrote:

Of course it's not a surprise. But your method for doing so sucks.

ARe you talking about quotas and affirmative action? Because I dislike that too, but in places where equality of opportunity does not exist (hello Murica) it is needed surely, to compensated for the gross inequalities.

Please sop slandering the United States to promote your vile ethnocommunism.

If it makes it easier to ignore my points, then sure.

Or maybe not.

That's the last time you liken my beliefs to anything like communism, by the way.

I lost family fighting communists, to this day we remember them and honour them for their sacrifice and enabling great prosperity and autonomy for our nation.

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rojimboo wrote:

There are quite a few examples, but overcoming these obstacles shouldn't be a necessity, the obstacles shouldn't be there in the first place, because they exist in the mind of the prejudiced, i.e. it's their fault not vice versa.

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鬼殺し wrote:

This blanket usage of an Orwellian term by people who would happily maintain the values against which he was writing, notably unquestioned homogenisation and blind faith in Big Brother's tweet-like declarations. They claim to be enlightened or inquisitive but really they're just inquisitors flourishing in what is increasingly looking like a new dark age of sameness.

You know, Charan, the most horrifying component of 1984's wrongthink wasn't that people would be broken for not wanting to believe the consensus. The most horrifying part was that people would be broken for wanting to understand that consensus, and failing to. Wilson's trip to the Ministry of Love saddens but does not surprise, but seeing Parsons there overwhelms.

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rojimboo wrote:

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ScrotieMcB wrote:

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rojimboo wrote:

ARe you talking about quotas and affirmative action? Because I dislike that too, but in places where equality of opportunity does not exist (hello Murica) it is needed surely, to compensated for the gross inequalities.

Please sop slandering the United States to promote your vile ethnocommunism.

I lost family fighting communists, to this day we remember them and honour them for their sacrifice and enabling great prosperity and autonomy for our nation.

All the more reason for you not to unwittingly spread vile, ethnocommunist ideas like racial quotas.

See, I'm willing to give you the benefit of the doubt in terms of intent. I don't have sufficient reason at this point to believe you're in any way a bad person, or at least not more than average. (And even if you were: what of it? Wouldn't change a thing.) I'm not here to insult you or anyone.

But you have been promoting an openly racist, equality-of-outcome-based policy, and I don't see any reason to back down on my condemnation of that vile policy. Racial quotas are ethnocommunism. Disagree or disavow.

I'm glad I live in a country where racial quotas are illegal as fuck (literally against article 3 of the constitution). It's absurd to think that you could provide equality of opportunity by implementing racial quotas.

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ScrotieMcB wrote:

Females are the majority of just about every nation. Yet — to take a shot in the dark — you probably believe males have the upper hand. I'd ask you to take that idea to a male nurse or a male teacher.

Hi, I'm a male teacher and I'm just here to say I absolutely believe men are treated with advantage in countless ways in our society.

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Boem wrote:

I look like a hippie and i am sure people have prejudice against me when i walk around in my loose shirts and run down pants, black beard and long hair.

So fucking what?

It's nice to agree on something. In a discussion touching on things like homophobia, racism, misogyny, transphobia, "so what" is indeed an appropriate response to this idea of prejudice against, uh, people with loose shirts and long hair.

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GusTheCrocodile wrote:

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Boem wrote:

I look like a hippie and i am sure people have prejudice against me when i walk around in my loose shirts and run down pants, black beard and long hair.

So fucking what?

It's nice to agree on something. In a discussion touching on things like homophobia, racism, misogyny, transphobia, "so what" is indeed an appropriate response to this idea of prejudice against, uh, people with loose shirts and long hair.

Please tell me where you live.

I'm curious about a nation where people smell sexual orientation and hippie's are the ruling class.

Peace,

-Boem-

It's not clear what you're saying there, could you rephrase your point? It sounds a bit like you think I said "prejudice against hippies doesn't exist" or something, but I didn't.

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GusTheCrocodile wrote:

It's not clear what you're saying there, could you rephrase your point? It sounds a bit like you think I said "prejudice against hippies doesn't exist" or something, but I didn't.

Don't be silly, my assertion was that you think prejudice comes in different forms and categories where one outranks the other.

And i'm naturally intrigued by people being able to smell sexual orientation, i enjoy weird factoids like that.

Peace,

-Boem-

Still don't see why you suddenly brought up "smelling sexual orientation" as being characteristic of where I live. But sure, I'm the one being silly.

I do not use the term 'prejudice' to describe problems like racism, because they are about power dynamics too, not just people thinking poorly of others. My assertion is that problems that involve deeply entrenched power structures causing sustained harm to particular communities are vastly more serious than "someone thought I was dumb once because I dress like a hippie". My assertion is that bringing the latter up as if it's comparable is an insulting minimisation of substantial problems.

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GusTheCrocodile wrote:

Still don't see why you suddenly brought up "smelling sexual orientation" as being characteristic of where I live. But sure, I'm the one being silly.

I do not use the term 'prejudice' to describe problems like racism, because they are about power dynamics too, not just people thinking poorly of others. My assertion is that problems that involve deeply entrenched power structures causing sustained harm to particular communities are vastly more serious than "someone thought I was dumb once because I dress like a hippie". My assertion is that bringing the latter up as if it's comparable is an insulting minimisation of substantial problems.

How does one perceive sexual orientation exactly?

Funny thing about power, it only works when you give it away.

Also in the meantime i was thinking about a stellar idea.

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Imagine street fighter, but much better costumes, accessories and more elaborate backstories to pull you in.

Peace,

-Boem-