Path of Nerfs

Feelsgoodman my ranger is not getting nerfed.
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LightW2 wrote:
What is the problem with Slayer nerf?
In 3.0.0 we had of 30% max life leech per second (20% base + 10% from fervour). No VP
In 3.1.0 we have 40% max life leech per second (20% base * 2 from VP).
+VP moved to Slayer area.
It is a buff, isnt it?


It's not if you don't like mandatory keystones (that also takes away your regen).
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Last edited by 15107514#3112 on Dec 4, 2017, 11:48:26 PM
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Innomen wrote:
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Jackalope_Gaming wrote:
As various humongous nerfs have shown, GGG isn't afraid of pissing people off. If it was feasible to not have legacy items, they'd be doing it.


The mental gymnastics are real.

Did we not just watch a league get voided?

If legacies are such a problem and they really aren't afraid of pissing people off and it's really such a technical hurdle to run a database edit once, then just delete standard and make everyone play leagues.

In reality you've completely invented this technology problem. They could easily modify all legacy items to be contemporary versions. The reached into my stash to change my skeleton jewels no problem.

I am frankly amazed you seriously asserted otherwise.


It was an event league that got voided. Its purpose was to say "Here's some crazy shit, have fun with it."

There is an astronomical difference between voiding a 10 day league compared to suddenly deleting the permanent leagues. Also, going from "legacy items are a problem" to "let's delete Standard" is something I'd personally call "mental gymnastics." But to go along with it, deleting Standard would be far more devastating to GGG and PoE's players than screwing around with a few items.

As far as what I said about tech issues though, read this post by Mark: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/314098/filter-account-type/staff#p2744074

They can do "migrations" from one version to another but it's more difficult than just making "a database edit" and thus they only do it when absolutely necessary. As Chris says later on, the amount of work needed to get that migration correct is often better spent on making the game better in other areas.

No, they cannot easily modify all legacy items to be contemporary versions.
Are you serious? god.. first you nerf ES when 3.0 came out now you nerf rise of the phoenix too? rip my RF build. I already change the build from ES to life once, then now you are telling me that i need more life regen just so i can run RF? bear in mind that not all RF build is marauder that have life inate life regen in their class, there are guardian RF and trickster too.
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Innomen wrote:
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sehrverrueckt wrote:
The game is free to play. They created the game thus they own the rights, and can do whatever they want with it. You make it sound like you have the right to preserve the game in the form you desire. You don't, your options are dictated by your intent to play a game somebody else made.

Futhermore, nobody is in anybody's service here. Not us, not GGG. This is a business transaction, we play the game and have the option to pay money to make our characters look cool. That's it.


1. Every program is a number. No one should own a number. You disagree because religion. Even the old world understood this which is why we have a distinction between copyright and patents in the first place. Software should be handled exactly like recipes are handled, because that's exactly what it is. It's a recipe. I ethically and morally should have the right to edit it as I see fit, but because of physical law technical barriers not least of which being fear of suits and prosecution, I can't.

2. It's not free to play. You act like stash tabs aren't a thing. Like trade isn't a thing. Like paid tabs aren't the only real way to trade.

3. What happens when coding becomes so accessible you can simply clone this game at home by asking you personal AI to do it? Does GGG have the right to have the state punish you if you do so without their permission? You say yes because that's your religion. I don't share it. What happens when you can do this totally in your mind because cybernetics? Would GGG have the "right" to delete infringing memories/reveries?

4. My options are dictated by physical reality and nothing more. I am a collection of atoms behaving accordingly, just like you are.

You live in a fantasy world with inconsistent logic. As do all IPL cultists. And with this I am leaving the thread. I'd have better luck talking a Templar into atheism.

I have no illusions, there's no talking sense to a fanatic. Frankly there's no talking sense to anyone. They either already agree to they don't.

Have a great day all.


Pure comedy.
Slayer nerf kind of forces slayers to go for VP, which isn't very cool.
Acuities nerf was expected :D Also, bloodseeker's prices will be significantly higher in the next league.
Changes to exp are just mean. The people that were getting their characters to 100 in less than a week WILL still be getting them to 100 in, maybe, just over a week.
The people that didn't have as much time on their hands, on the other hand, are fucked.

The rest is..ehh, it's understandable for the most part. I can see the reasoning behind barrage, QOTF and doomfletch's nerfs, less so with Rise of the Phoenix - come on, it wasn't that OP in the first place. Dark Pact nerf was kind of inevitable, and with MoM gonna have to see patchnotes for numbers.

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15107514 wrote:
There are some reflect changes right? How the hell do Critical Strike builds deal with reflect? Vaal pact and Acutiy Atziri's Gauntlet was build around to counter reflect. I'm really disappointed GGG. This will impact many good builds and completely ruining them. I not surprised so much people are mad about this.

Uhh, where've you been? :D Reflect from nemesis monsters is reworked, yes.
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nskLantash wrote:
bloodseeker's prices will be significantly higher in the next league.


It may still be getting nerfed. We will find out tomorrow I guess.
Why legacy items exist!

- chris said they wanted to reward players for playing now, and this is why legacy items exist (sometimes).

if you play leagues, legacy is not relevant. If you plat std, then you're basically waltzing into a lamb of god mosh pit. Don't go askingfor a safe space and item equality if you put chose to be there.
I'm struggling to come up with new goals to keep me playing this game.

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