[3.10] Sovyn's Lazy Pally - Tanky Templar with Max Block

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xenochaos1 wrote:

any link to a video plz?

Howdy xenochaos1. There are many links to videos in the third post from the top, on page one.

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Sovyn wrote:

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GermanosKaraflas wrote:

Hello to every lazy Pally out there! I very recently finished the 3 difficulties of the game following this guide almost 100% for my first ever character (at level 67, I am currently level 68). It is a very nice guide and I enjoyed my Pally so far.

Hail GermanosKaraflas! Thanks for the detailed feedback and entertaining read there.

Nice chest armour. I do think 30% movement speed boots are almost required. :)

I did notice that your weapon really needs upgrading for end game, it is only 185 DPS. Upgrading that to something end game viable (250+, but more is better) will make a nice difference on your double strike or heavy strike. Quality really helps on these attack skill gems as well.

Remember, if you are willing to depart from ground slam, you are not locked into a mace, so you could look at axes or swords (siege axe or corsair sword are the most common high DPS choices).

I have never experienced objectionable desync with heavy strike but some folks have mentioned it as an issue.

One nice thing about the build is you can use whatever attack skill suits you -- lots of them just won't feel right.

Hi Sovyn, thanks or the reply. Yeah, I have to admit that besides the 120 alts spent on the (failed) ring and the regaling of the shield (got the walling + life mods after 2 alts, I was OMFG!, and I decided to regal it on the spot so that the RNG jesus would do me justice...) I can't say I have been unlucky with alching whites, which is all of my current gear except for the boots, which, as I mentioned, were a straight drop from Piety, and ammy, mana leech ring and weapon (honestly I think I like the gloves the most, 600 armor on just a pair of gloves is crazy). As for the weapon, I am really hesitating to try to alch a white, both flat and % dmg seem necessary on a weapon, but it feels difficult to get them both, although I haven't tried to craft one yet.

Now a question regarding the build. Why do you opt for Berserking + 2 att. speed nodes instead of the Aspect of the Panther + 2 att. speed nodes on the Ranger side of the tree, to which one has straighter access once Ondar's guile is taken? Is 21% increased attack speed that much better than 14% increased att. speed, 16% increased 1h dmg, 10 life and 4% movement speed? I am really inclined to go the Aspect of the Panther way, but I would like to hear your opinion. Of course one could pick all 6 nodes, but that is not the point, I want to have the option to pick 3 dmg nodes and not 6.

Cheers

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GermanosKaraflas wrote:

Now a question regarding the build. Why do you opt for Berserking + 2 att. speed nodes instead of the Aspect of the Panther + 2 att. speed nodes on the Ranger side of the tree, to which one has straighter access once Ondar's guile is taken? Is 21% increased attack speed that much better than 14% increased att. speed, 16% increased 1h dmg, 10 life and 4% movement speed? I am really inclined to go the Aspect of the Panther way, but I would like to hear your opinion. Of course one could pick all 6 nodes, but that is not the point, I want to have the option to pick 3 dmg nodes and not 6.

Cheers

I think going with Berserking helps justify going up for Sentinel and Path of the Warrior later. Also, 7% attack speed is more DPS than 16% damage.

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Sovyn wrote:

Also, 7% attack speed is more DPS than 16% damage.

Hey Sovyn, I 'll stick with your choice then. Gonna search for the dmg formulas to verify it. Thanks for your advice and the fast reply,

Cheers

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GermanosKaraflas wrote:

Gonna search for the dmg formulas to verify it.

Great! Let us know what you find out, either way. Remember though that that node on the tree is "increased physical damage" which is much different (worse) than, for example, "more Melee Physical Damage" such as found on the Melee Physical Damage support gem. :)

and guys what DPS can you achieve with this build?
with only :

Physical Damage
165% increased Melee Physical Damage

and he only have a 185 PDPS weapon.... i dont know he has what maybe 2K dps....
how do you play endgame with 2K dps?...


is it possible to achieve 15K dps with this build?
if not do you have any build that can achieve 15K dps wish is ultra tanky too?!

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XenoChaos2 wrote:

and guys what DPS can you achieve with this build?
with only :

Physical Damage
165% increased Melee Physical Damage

and he only have a 185 PDPS weapon.... i dont know he has what maybe 2K dps....
how do you play endgame with 2K dps?...


is it possible to achieve 15K dps with this build?
if not do you have any build that can achieve 15K dps wish is ultra tanky too?!

Hello XenoChaos2, Thanks for posting.

I do about 5k DPS.

But, I am self found. You can do better. I've played other popular melee builds and I actually do less DPS with those self found.

As with any build, it's all about gear.

We have lazy pallies (this build) that do anywhere from 15K - 30K DPS with top gear. It's all in the thread if you care to read the many pages.

You can do good DPS just following my guide and reading the rich people's sections. I want the guide to be accessible to the new player, that's why it's written the way it is -- you can literally do end game content with less than 1 ex worth of gear (as I am) because it's so tanky. To shine DPS wise, you need to invest, as with any build.

thanks for the reply,

do you have any link to a build just a bit less tanky and a bit more dps wise?

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XenoChaos2 wrote:

thanks for the reply,

do you have any link to a build just a bit less tanky and a bit more dps wise?

Not really, as other melee builds that claim high DPS that I have tried fail to outdamage my lazy pally when played strictly self found.

Also, the tankiness of this build is required for end game, I would not want to try playing less tanky.

That said, perhaps a ranged or summoner build is more for you. It's possible they can do acceptable damage for lower cost than a melee build can.

By the way, I kill Merciless Piety in 1 minute flat. That's not too bad. There's a video on the first page.

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Sovyn wrote:

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XenoChaos2 wrote:

thanks for the reply,

do you have any link to a build just a bit less tanky and a bit more dps wise?

Not really, as other melee builds that claim high DPS that I have tried fail to outdamage my lazy pally when played strictly self found.

Also, the tankiness of this build is required for end game, I would not want to try playing less tanky.

That said, perhaps a ranged or summoner build is more for you. It's possible they can do acceptable damage for lower cost than a melee build can.

By the way, I kill Merciless Piety in 1 minute flat. That's not too bad. There's a video on the first page.

ah but i think thats insanely long to only kill piety xD what about map boss dont they regen life faster then you do dmg?.... and doing dominus would take age...

im am not that poor... i actually have 2-3 exalted of funding and i can kill dominus with my Blender (selfound)(die 5-6 times) and come culling strike with my mf firestorm witch(60IIQ/230IIR) so i can farm a bit and make money, but my blender is still dying pretty fast...

so i was hoping for a really good build that can solo endgame content with minimal death (im not hardcore)
i was maybe thinking a build with aegis aurora :
[1.0.0] 1H shield infernal blow marauder/duelist with video by boxsalesman ( immortal build )
http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/557381

or with max block/spell:
IN-DEPTH: TIURAKH'S HACK-&-SLASH MELEE RANGER (EVASION/MAX BLOCK + SPELL BLOCK. 18K+ AOE DPS) [1.0]
http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/503727


im not good in comparing build so i dont know wich one i should go im currently hesitating between those 3, i dont really want to go range since i dont think they can solo bosses at all (but im still lvling my ranger from time to time when im bored)

if you have any opinion on what build i should get lmk, i have 3 exaleted and can probably afford a build with 1 costly item like aegis aurora or bringer or rain, but only 1 item like that not 2, so if u wanna help me find it or have any sugestion feel free to help me ;p or pm me ;p!


my goal is minimum 12k dps/ highest survivability possible with 3 exalted of gear and 1 godly item that cost 8-9 exalted