Path of Exile 2: Return of the Ancients Teasers

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GimmeZeLoot#1718 wrote:

Endgame is still the same, your promises made it even worse because people expected some REWORK, so the endgame actually FEELS BETTER, what you did just piled up another ton of crap on top of it. Another 3-5 day league where economy will be ruined not with partyplayers only but with genesis tree printing too now (on top with the temple). Add lootships to kingsmarch so instead of grinding gear games it will become sit afk in ho waiting for loot like you did in poe 1, so even plebs can be rich and happy

You are trolling every post you find! You don't support GGG, you don't support the game, why do you even talk? Most of the trolls are like you, they pretending stuff without giving nothing back! No real and constructive criticism, trolls!

This update it's massive, they basically changed all the game! And most of the unemployed are screaming in their basement that they didn't do nothing....... Do you even know how much work they put into that?

It’s just massive, there’s so much stuff that I’m honestly stunned. Looking forward to the patch notes

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AndreiM92#9220 wrote:

You don't support GGG, you don't support the game, why do you even talk? Most of the trolls are like you, they pretending stuff without giving nothing back! No real and constructive criticism, trolls!

You forgot this early access game cost some money? You forgot all the broken promises, regular underdelivering, extending leagues for months just because of poe2? I bought poe 2 and im not supporting it direction it goes, very simple. 1.5 years no endgame, i call it like this.

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GimmeZeLoot#1718 wrote:

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AndreiM92#9220 wrote:

You don't support GGG, you don't support the game, why do you even talk? Most of the trolls are like you, they pretending stuff without giving nothing back! No real and constructive criticism, trolls!

You forgot this early access game cost some money? You forgot all the broken promises, regular underdelivering, extending leagues for months just because of poe2? I bought poe 2 and im not supporting it direction it goes, very simple. 1.5 years no endgame, i call it like this.

You bought an early acces key ( or it was gifted to you ), you didn't support the game!!!!!!! They didn't break any promise, developing takes time, that's why it's called early acces, but you don't know that!

I mean, this update didn’t excite me at all. I’ll probably just skip it, just like the last one. No swords, no axes, no new weapons, no new classes. I don’t get why they aren’t focusing on these things. If you’re so set on endgame content, you need to add new weapons and new classes first so we can try out something fun. I’m sick of seeing maces or spears. Sorry, but I’m passing again. I think it would make more sense to develop new leagues or end-game content after adding weapons and classes.

The game is huge and still beta and some dudes already wants more wep.
I guess it's just matter of time, the game will be released and it will be updated in the years.

Who of us still remember how big was POE in first season and how big is it now ?

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wirstroff#1495 wrote:

It’s just massive, there’s so much stuff that I’m honestly stunned. Looking forward to the patch notes

Quantity over Quality. At least that is my impression. It is always nice to have many options, many ways to kill things - however, most of the time you do exactly that: kill things. This is the most important aspect of the game. Combat should be engaging and they did create a solid foundation that could have provided. It looked very promising in the beginning of EA - literally, they promised. All the efforts they put into combos, CC, dodge, active block etc are in vein when you simply make it all about the need to kill things as fast as possible.

This is not me demanding anything. Seems like most people are happy with it, but I personally can't help but feel mislead.

It's fine. Someone will fill that niche eventually.

Even more screen wiping stuff? Ehh
Gimme that option to change monster quantity to quality through atlas tree while keeping drops and timed mechanics comparable. And gotta say, still prefer PoE2's atlas over poe1's.

W changes on all you've shown, all mechanics really do look like more refined and complete. Honestly, pretty much a big W on what you showed, won't expand on that.

However, some things that disappoint:

- NO LIFE ON TREE still?
Let's compare - you speak of ES being in the same bracket like armour/evasion but this is NOT the case! A 20k+ ES character can handle boss red attacks even without good alt defenses (resistance/armour/evasion/etc.) - and this is not a fringe case, majority of ES users really get high ES pool with very little investment. On the other hand, a barely squeezed 3k life 50k+ armour stacking with +inc max res/res to armour/etc will die to the same thing, in every single case when compared to ES. On top of that there's CI, which only makes things even more imbalanced. Do you understand how many hurdles there are to making a life/armour build even remotely viable for late game's survivability? Anyway, this is still insane to me why you are being so stubborn when we, the players, complain about this again, and again, and again, every single patch, but you still decide to ignore us.

- RARITY ON GEAR still exists?
Just why - it's fascinating how easy of a change it would be to give us what WE want - we complain for a reason, why do you not listen? Just remove it for 1 patch and let us experiment and feel how it is. If we start complaining again, put it back in, and keep it for good.

- ONLY 2 NEW ASCENDANCIES won't cut it for the next 6 months.
Not sure what you're expecting, but I am not expecting we'll be kept in the game for so long. I personally see myself playing this patch for at least 2 months, but once I am done - that's it. No way your mid league events are that great. Unless there's a big overhaul like a proper patch with balance changes to reinvigorate the game like a new league/skill changes, then there's no way you'll get more than a fraction of the player base from league launch to come back and play.
Why couldn't you just throw together a class with 2 ascendancies on top of that - let us try it out, who cares, it's EA right? Actually, even if it wasn't a class, we'd be also happy with getting the other 2 remaining ascendancies - the Druid and the Ranger ones. You'd get your feedback, we'll get what we want and complain/hype about it. But at least we'll have more actual "toys" to play with for 6 MONTHS.

So, to sum up:
- Great changes on what you showed, but you've made false promises on throwing us something massive. This is so, because you missed the core concepts of what we feel is important: We are boys, we want to play with toys, but instead you're giving us a book. Why do people love patch notes? Because we want to see what Class/Passive/Skill changes there are - this is the FUN part. This is what breathes air each patch. And we needed more of this to justify the long 5 and a half month of a 0.4 league.
And on top of that, we are spoiled boys, we expect the endgame to be good - I trust you with that, and what I want in return is massive patch notes filled with changes that will keep me occupied to theorize the next 10+ builds I'll make.

When you talk about satisfying the "normal" audience, what are you trying to achieve? I migrated from POE1 and I adore the new fleshed out graphics, but the depth just isn't there. I feel like you're trying to dumb down the game in your attempt to attract a more "casual" audience. Stick to your guns and satisfy the right people who love exploring the depths of build creation and challenging themselves. This is what makes you stand out from the other ARPGs, why people have supported you from the start - please keep up to that standard, not the money grabbing identity you're chasing after (the D4 route really), and treating us like we can't think for ourselves. People like me play your game, please listen to the constructive criticism we're giving, don't lose us.

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AndreiM92#9220 wrote:

This update it's massive, they basically changed all the game! And most of the unemployed are screaming in their basement that they didn't do nothing....... Do you even know how much work they put into that?

Did they though? Doesnt feel that way to me based on what was shown.. that they changed the whole game? They refined league mechanics Delerium, beyond and ritual sure, but changed? I'd sooner suggest they upgraded them and added more complexity to them, but the core concepts largely remain the same.
Likewise with endgame, the core idea behind how it works is the same. They have moreso added on top of it.

There's no doubt a ton of work has gone into it, I don't think anyone would question that.. I think the upset comes from where that time was spent and what it was spent on. This to me is the disappointing part, as at least imo, I would not have made a lot of the changes they did at this point in time. This refinement of things I would have expected to be at 1.0 or beyond, not when you still are missing base weapons, a 3rd ascendency trial, classes and ascendancies, and just stated that this will be the last patch before 1.0.

Its their game they develop it how they want, sure.. to me feels like their priorities are a bit sideways.