Path of Exile 2: Return of the Ancients Teasers

I have no idea how the heck some of you guys are saying they didn't change enough. I get not all content being for everyone, but almost every single end game system has been changed in some way, how the HECK is that nothing to you guys?

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BlightDragon89#9329 wrote:

I have no idea how the heck some of you guys are saying they didn't change enough. I get not all content being for everyone, but almost every single end game system has been changed in some way, how the HECK is that nothing to you guys?

Building something like "storyline" on top of something people do not like (and keep saying there is no endgame for 1.5 years now) is not an "endgame rework", especially when it took so long (they promised endgame rework previous league). Endgame is still the same, even more tedious now. GGG did huge work im not denying that, but its not for me.

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GimmeZeLoot#1718 wrote:

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BlightDragon89#9329 wrote:

I have no idea how the heck some of you guys are saying they didn't change enough. I get not all content being for everyone, but almost every single end game system has been changed in some way, how the HECK is that nothing to you guys?

Building something like "storyline" on top of something people do not like (and keep saying there is no endgame for 1.5 years now) is not an "endgame rework", especially when it took so long (they promised endgame rework previous league). Endgame is still the same, even more tedious now. GGG did huge work im not denying that, but its not for me.

Exactly - just adding more and not fixing the underlying base endgame while being wowed by the changes is a bit odd..

Like, its great adding more to the game, I don't think anyone has bad to say about that, but to only get this and not get any meaningful changes to the core concept of mapping is gonna leave players wanting (still). Not a hard concept to grasp.

I will play through this league, get to endgame, and likely bail after not too long. I figure will be the same for many unless there is some additional draw like last league with making tons of divs crafting or running temple. I don't think new runes or endgame quests are gonna cut it frankly.

IDK, I guess the point I'm missing is that you guys keep saying end game is the same. I just don't see it that way. The one thing that didn't change was infinite atlas. But as I understood it the part people didn't like about that was that there was no direction, no reason to keep going. Now there is. To me that seems like to make end game feel totally different.

Admittedly I am a lore person, so more story to me is always good.

What is it that you guys actually want changed? How would you change it if you could?

I just hope GGG doesn't let Fubgun ruin this league like he almost did in patch 0.4 with the temple bug and wasn't even penalized.

Infinite atlas sucks.

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GimmeZeLoot#1718 wrote:

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BlightDragon89#9329 wrote:

I have no idea how the heck some of you guys are saying they didn't change enough. I get not all content being for everyone, but almost every single end game system has been changed in some way, how the HECK is that nothing to you guys?

Building something like "storyline" on top of something people do not like (and keep saying there is no endgame for 1.5 years now) is not an "endgame rework", especially when it took so long (they promised endgame rework previous league). Endgame is still the same, even more tedious now. GGG did huge work im not denying that, but its not for me.

You are welcome to not play, maybe D4 would be more your thing

I believe, people are just too used to game 1 "juicing strats" they cannot fathom how a game can be played and replayed with out the need of repeating the same map layout 1 million times, that is what they are used to, that is what ggg taught them and they will hardly relearn or at least be ready to take a breath from it.

For game 2 to be good it has to stand out of version 1 in some aspect, it doesn't just have to be the graphical successor, no point in making the same game twice, I bet everything that if they would have made a static map design, movement skills, etc. like in version 1 people will still bash it, they are never satisfied yet never know what they want.

we still have game 1 and hopefully will be there for longer, if someone doesn't like this one its fine, but is a fools errand trying to turn it into the other.

all in all i enjoy both games having different approaches of killing monster get loot with their ups and downs.

One main thing both games are in a bad state IMO is that the upper limit of gearing is useless and it has to be addressed, that makes the progression feel pointless, why would I want a mirror tier weapon if my 10d weapon (example) can obliterate the whole game, happens in both versions, for now mirror tier items feel like badges to brag. Besides the 0.00001% extreme cases of a guy showing off how he can 1 tap a 6 party boss or carry map.

Damage and defenses have to pass through checks aka map tiers or bosses, as for now with the gear you complete campaign you can technically with no difficulty get to t15 and this ruins the experience.

Hopefully they have done something in this aspect and we will see.

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GimmeZeLoot#1718 wrote:

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BlightDragon89#9329 wrote:

I have no idea how the heck some of you guys are saying they didn't change enough. I get not all content being for everyone, but almost every single end game system has been changed in some way, how the HECK is that nothing to you guys?

Building something like "storyline" on top of something people do not like (and keep saying there is no endgame for 1.5 years now) is not an "endgame rework", especially when it took so long (they promised endgame rework previous league). Endgame is still the same, even more tedious now. GGG did huge work im not denying that, but its not for me.

Complaining and complaining that is all you do. The update changes endgame and they made correct changes what it needs the most, they will not change infinite atlas hopefully. We don't need 2 same games just different graphics. Play PoE1 if you do not like PoE2 or something else.

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YoroGamer#7386 wrote:

I just hope GGG doesn't let Fubgun ruin this league like he almost did in patch 0.4 with the temple bug and wasn't even penalized.

+1