69 eaters ssf no melding edit: 84 eaters now

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Rextec#4521 wrote:

stop trying to make the game easier, get better and play smarter

It is not about making the game easier. It isn't about me getting better and playing smarter either. It is about balancing the game and its game modes appropriately for both trade and solo players alike.

SSF in its current form is outdated, neglected and deserves to be looked at again. Especially when other games do it significantly better.

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cowmoo275#3095 wrote:

It is NOT sp. I already wrote about this either here or in another thread.

https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/single-player


You're right that SSF was introduced as a formalized challenge mode, originally meant to support players who were already doing self-imposed no-trade runs. It wasn’t specifically created as a traditional “single-player mode.”

However, in practice, SSF functions as exactly that, a single-player experience. There’s no trading, no grouping, no interaction with other players. Everything is done solo, and your progress depends entirely on what you can find or craft yourself.

What makes it more difficult is that it uses the same game balance as the trade league, which is designed around access to a player-driven economy. So while SSF might not be officially labeled as single-player, it effectively is, just with the added challenge of playing alone in a system balanced for multiplayer and trade.

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Celestriad#0304 wrote:

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Rextec#4521 wrote:

stop trying to make the game easier, get better and play smarter

It is not about making the game easier. It isn't about me getting better and playing smarter either. It is about balancing the game and its game modes appropriately for both trade and solo players alike.

SSF in its current form is outdated, neglected and deserves to be looked at again. Especially when other games do it significantly better.

it's not outdated, if anything ssf has gotten remarkably easier over time. it's a YOU problem

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Rextec#4521 wrote:

stop trying to make the game easier, get better and play smarter

Unless you use your intelligence to hack GGG and increase drop rates for boss specific drops for an item that you want, there's literally nothing that can be done in SSF.

Unless you're saying to only play easy to acquire builds, which then makes chase loot pointless, which in turn makes the whole game pointless after you beat ubers, which is alredy kinda easy.

Yeah please make it like Last Epoch so I can be done with the next league in 2 days.

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Rextec#4521 wrote:

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Celestriad#0304 wrote:

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Rextec#4521 wrote:

stop trying to make the game easier, get better and play smarter

It is not about making the game easier. It isn't about me getting better and playing smarter either. It is about balancing the game and its game modes appropriately for both trade and solo players alike.

SSF in its current form is outdated, neglected and deserves to be looked at again. Especially when other games do it significantly better.

it's not outdated, if anything ssf has gotten remarkably easier over time. it's a YOU problem

Bold statement coming from someone who doesn't even play SSF themselves. I have no personal issues with SSF, I'm giving feedback on the game mode as a whole in comparison to then and now, other games and that GGG can afford to look at it again.

No first iteration is perfect, ever.

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SpaniardPuss#1549 wrote:

Yeah please make it like Last Epoch so I can be done with the next league in 2 days.

You know accessibility and QoL tailored towards a better single player experience, which is what SSF ultimately is, doesn't necessarily mean easy mode or fast-track progression, right?

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Celestriad#0304 wrote:

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Rextec#4521 wrote:

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Celestriad#0304 wrote:

it's not outdated, if anything ssf has gotten remarkably easier over time. it's a YOU problem

Bold statement coming from someone who doesn't even play SSF themselves. I have no personal issues with SSF, I'm giving feedback on the game mode as a whole in comparison to then and now, other games and that GGG can afford to look at it again.

No first iteration is perfect, ever.

i don't keep every character i create, any ssf chars i've had i delete them

even if i didn't play ssf, which i do sometimes. you don't need to play ssf to see how easy the game has gotten over time

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Celestriad#0304 wrote:

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SpaniardPuss#1549 wrote:

Yeah please make it like Last Epoch so I can be done with the next league in 2 days.

You know accessibility and QoL tailored towards a better single player experience, which is what SSF ultimately is, doesn't necessarily mean easy mode or fast-track progression, right?

But it is exactly that. They only additional difficulty of SSF is the lack of targeted loot. If you remove that, you have easymode, just like LE difficulty is a joke.

btw just because you think the definition of SSF is "outdated", doesn't make it so. And even if 3 people come here and cry "yeah, thats right" won't change that.
SSF is bragging rights, nothing more.

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tsunamikun#0433 wrote:

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Celestriad#0304 wrote:

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SpaniardPuss#1549 wrote:

Yeah please make it like Last Epoch so I can be done with the next league in 2 days.

You know accessibility and QoL tailored towards a better single player experience, which is what SSF ultimately is, doesn't necessarily mean easy mode or fast-track progression, right?

But it is exactly that. They only additional difficulty of SSF is the lack of targeted loot. If you remove that, you have easymode, just like LE difficulty is a joke.

btw just because you think the definition of SSF is "outdated", doesn't make it so. And even if 3 people come here and cry "yeah, thats right" won't change that.
SSF is bragging rights, nothing more.

when i play ssf it's not for bragging rights, it's generally more fun than trade league and i don't have to deal with people