time for 20% death penalty

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Ynexounemai wrote:

Still! Just remove the exp penalty! Have that exp penalty to hardcore players. But for those who just want to see their characters grow in the league, have it removed.

How are you going to grow by not learning your mistakes? How will you do that when you keep dying because you keep zerging or you go into a fight not prepared with no gear?

You don't lol

That penalty will never be removed in fact just gets enhanced via poe 2 which is good; The moment you even try to leave or tp out or your death in a boss you have to do it all over again how it should be not this mindless zerg shit and then go OH NO I DIED TO A ONE SHOT :( or go OH NO I GOT DCED that's not fair!

Naw it's no excuses it's you and you only.

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Coconutdoggy wrote:

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Ynexounemai wrote:

Still! Just remove the exp penalty! Have that exp penalty to hardcore players. But for those who just want to see their characters grow in the league, have it removed.

How are you going to grow by not learning your mistakes? How will you do that when you keep dying because you keep zerging or you go into a fight not prepared with no gear?

You don't lol

That's honestly one of the worst arguments for the penalty. For one, most people would dislike dying and backtracking in their maps even without the penalty. Anyone with the willingness and ability to learn and improve would do so even without it because it's simply more fun and efficient to NOT die, penalty or not.

As for people who are unable to learn or don't care about their death count, the penalty doesn't affect them at all. Just like it doesn't affect glass cannon players at all. They will either be in the camp that throws cast on death + portal onto their build and calls it a day while zerking through everything on dps alone and leveling in 5 ways or they they'll come here to complain about it and eventually quit the game.

The death penalty as it is right now accomplishes nothing aside from forcing people to decide between leveling up and doing the content they like. The existence of 5 ways alone completely invalidates the penalties ability to do what it's supposed to do. Level 100 isn't a chase goal only achievable by the best players. It's something even the worst noob can accomplish by farming for an hour and then buy his level 100 for a few divines.

I'd actually be in favor of a penalty that gives people an incentive to think more about their defense and that makes leveling to hundred a test of skill rather than budget but this game has no such penalty, and doubling the bullshit penalty we have won't do anything.

The approach they take for POE2 is way better and should be implemented for POE1 as well imo.

There's no argument to be made if you die it's your fault most of the time and most of you can't exactly accept that.

That's the best part and even better it won't change and once more even gets enhanced in poe 2.

Good.

You didn't even read my post did you? Well, not really a surprise.

Should I? Naw not like it's going to change things.

Make a better char and you will progress that's the end.

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Nomancs wrote:

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dW2005 wrote:

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Nomancs wrote:

Since when hardcore or ruthless are 20%?

Spoiler

I smell trolling but okay. Hardcore is 100% - one death and you're pushing daisies in standard. And in SSF or SSF+ruthless good luck making one of these glass cannons with DPS somewhat equal to trade, hehe.

I do smell it too, but Ill bite - HC is still 10% exp penalty, and no, Im not interested in ssf nor ruthless or hc, Im interested in core softcore temp league

Somebody other is also interested in core softcore temp league just like you, and most likely they don't want that penalty to be 20%. So now we should make 20 or maybe even 100 players unhappy vs 1? Doesn't seem like a fair trade off.

Go to HC or Ruthless, it was done with the purpose of being more dangerous, or harder or whatever. If you don't want that, well, your problem.

Anyways, this desire of 20% exp loss is some weird wet dream which most likely won't happen. Maybe in poe2, you could wait for that.

I don't like this.
If you want to be hard on yourself, maybe keep it for ruthless?

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y3lw0rC wrote:

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Nomancs wrote:

Im not interested in ssf nor ruthless or hc, Im interested in core softcore temp league

Go to HC or Ruthless, it was done with the purpose of being more dangerous, or harder or whatever. If you don't want that, well, your problem.

reread what you quoted please

I know you want game to be easy, some want it as easy as D3. But I would rather have it harder as it was advertised to me many years ago. Game is balanced around softcore - thus -20% exp should be global.

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Nomancs wrote:

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y3lw0rC wrote:

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Nomancs wrote:

Im not interested in ssf nor ruthless or hc, Im interested in core softcore temp league

Go to HC or Ruthless, it was done with the purpose of being more dangerous, or harder or whatever. If you don't want that, well, your problem.

reread what you quoted please

I know you want game to be easy, some want it as easy as D3. But I would rather have it harder as it was advertised to me many years ago. Game is balanced around softcore - thus -20% exp should be global.

I know perfectly what I quoted and what you want.

If the content that was proposed doesn't suit you, then tough luck bro.

And I really dislike your "should". Don't decide for others what "should" should be. You might like it, others might hate it. Somebody might say, the game was balanced around softcore so there "should" be no penalty at all? So?

Judging by the posts, probably since the beginning of this game, there were MANY MORE posts who actually suggested to lower or remove the penalty completely. Hence, the penalty was lowered eventually because of an outcry.

The opinion to increase xp penalty is barely popular, so make ur own calculations how likely it is to happen.

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y3lw0rC wrote:

The opinion to increase xp penalty is barely popular, so make ur own calculations how likely it is to happen.

Anyways, good luck with ur desires.

If popular choices would be taken into consideration, game would have item editor. GGG will make choices they consider healthy for the game, in my opinion -20% exp is healthy.