Game Balance in Siege of the Atlas

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formaa1 wrote:

Why did you kill fire burst. Again.

yes they killed it dead , i was planning to start with it , but they basically halved its work so now its gona be sooo slow and unplayable

It's just irritating to gem swap for lmp,GMP for map clear and also it's harder to league start as +1 totem shaper shield would not be immediately accessible.with removal of prophecy the availability of atzri reflection is also another thing to consider. soul mantle drops really frequently and in ssf would be ideal before shaper shield. I don't think it's dead but it's probably not as smooth as before.

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alex_disp wrote:

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Synnian wrote:

I hate your way
of balancing the game. I play spell totems only, and the changes look bad to me. The same goes for changing minions in a very annoying way (them dying as your only source of damage is unfun). Not interested in supporting you anymore, gl.

From my point of view spell totems got buffed:

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Freezing Pulse: Now deals 8 to 12 Cold Damage at gem level 1 (unchanged), up to 1458 to 2188 at gem level 20 (previously 888 to 1332). Now has 330% Effectiveness of Added Damage at all gem levels (previously 200%).

Damage got buffed by 60%, but Spell Totem support damage was nerfed only by 16% on lvl 20, so all in all a 44% damage buff. +130% added damage effectiveness is huge. And also new tiers of cast speed on rings and other items - these affect totems even more.
Might as well go Freezing Pulse totem leaguestarter.

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Do multiple projectiles matter for bosses? I don't remember them stacking damage on top of each other.
The loss of +1 totem looks bad, but that just means that instead of using Atziri Reflection you'll have to get a +1 totems shaper shield and get curse immunity from other source. Many Soul Mantle builds use Atziri Reflection and had the same 4 totems.[/quote]

No one tell them Archmage is kind of sort of buffed. They'll determine it's too much fun and kill it again.

Do tell them Void Fletcher is only good with corrupted implicits.

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MRLAVA wrote:

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formaa1 wrote:

Why did you kill fire burst. Again.

yes they killed it dead , i was planning to start with it , but they basically halved its work so now its gona be sooo slow and unplayable

GGG hates autobobmer walk simulators. These Herald of Thunder Fire burst builds were a joke when they introduced it.

Thanks for the amazing balance effort GGG - Keep 'em coming! <3

Didn't Chris Wilson promise a melee buff in 3.17, where is it?

Spell Buff (Checked)
Bow Buff (Checked)
Melee Buff (No Where to be Found)

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tarabas wrote:

It's just irritating to gem swap for lmp,GMP for map clear and also it's harder to league start as +1 totem shaper shield would not be immediately accessible.with removal of prophecy the availability of atzri reflection is also another thing to consider. soul mantle drops really frequently and in ssf would be ideal before shaper shield. I don't think it's dead but it's probably not as smooth as before.

Start with Holy Flame Totems then. It's good and got buffed in patchnotes. Built-in projectile penetration, 3 projectiles, does not require Soul Mantle at all and most of the gear you need to run up to red maps is cheap as hell. You can check my profile, I played HFT every league even as GGG nerfed it and still killed A9 sirus and Maven with it.

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alex_disp wrote:

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Synnian wrote:

I hate your way of balancing the game. I play spell totems only, and the changes look bad to me. The same goes for changing minions in a very annoying way (them dying as your only source of damage is unfun). Not interested in supporting you anymore, gl.

From my point of view spell totems got buffed:

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Freezing Pulse: Now deals 8 to 12 Cold Damage at gem level 1 (unchanged), up to 1458 to 2188 at gem level 20 (previously 888 to 1332). Now has 330% Effectiveness of Added Damage at all gem levels (previously 200%).

Damage got buffed by 60%, but Spell Totem support damage was nerfed only by 16% on lvl 20, so all in all a 44% damage buff. +130% added damage effectiveness is huge. And also new tiers of cast speed on rings and other items - these affect totems even more.
Might as well go Freezing Pulse totem leaguestarter.

Not gonna try to figure out the math, but there's also the lack of extra totem on Soul Mantle. 5 totems was usual, so that's a 20% loss there, if you were a 4 totem build, you're now down to 3 so 25% loss. Then there's having to use GMP in a slot, meaning you're taking the loss from that but also not getting the increase from whatever gem you're replacing. That's probably a 50% loss from that.

Two points:

1) The Supreme Ego rule change is genius.

2) I will be playing Death Wish in 3.17.

Also, if I could make a special request, Chris- could you tweak the Death Wish sound effect so that it sounds like an imploding star instead of a dull fart? It would bring the skill in a lot more alignment with reality.