[3.21] ShakCentral's Cold DoT Elementalist For Everyone

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sumfight wrote:

League started with it again. Great as usual. If you are on the fence about playing it, I go for 40/40 most of the time and in my opinion it's my favorite build to league start a heavy push with.

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Vennto wrote:

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sumfight wrote:

League started with it again. Great as usual. If you are on the fence about playing it, I go for 40/40 most of the time and in my opinion it's my favorite build to league start a heavy push with.

That's the only thing I'm on the fence when it comes to this build. I've played it this league as a finisher with very high end gear, and there the tankiness feels great, the dmg feels decent and it's very fun and smooth gameplay.

In prep of 3.19 I also ran cold dot since a lot of people praise its early game potential but quite honestly I don't see it. In direct comparison with Bane Occultist it loses every single comparison - it's less tanky, it has less boss dps and it definitely has less aoe clear compared to Bane + Profane Bloom. I even tried different variants, going from WTB to the final setup with Vortex/Cold Snap, pathing towards different keynodes for tankiness but nothing worked enough for me - so my genuine question: what's the progression rate u can achieve with it?
Maybe I just want too much than this build can deliver, because the Bane variant clears t13 blights on a 5link and level 80 with ssf-gear

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sumfight wrote:

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Vennto wrote:

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sumfight wrote:

League started with it again. Great as usual. If you are on the fence about playing it, I go for 40/40 most of the time and in my opinion it's my favorite build to league start a heavy push with.

That's the only thing I'm on the fence when it comes to this build. I've played it this league as a finisher with very high end gear, and there the tankiness feels great, the dmg feels decent and it's very fun and smooth gameplay.

In prep of 3.19 I also ran cold dot since a lot of people praise its early game potential but quite honestly I don't see it. In direct comparison with Bane Occultist it loses every single comparison - it's less tanky, it has less boss dps and it definitely has less aoe clear compared to Bane + Profane Bloom. I even tried different variants, going from WTB to the final setup with Vortex/Cold Snap, pathing towards different keynodes for tankiness but nothing worked enough for me - so my genuine question: what's the progression rate u can achieve with it?
Maybe I just want too much than this build can deliver, because the Bane variant clears t13 blights on a 5link and level 80 with ssf-gear

Based on what the patch notes say, this or bane are what I'm going for.

I know I just talked about if you are on the fence go for it, and I really do mean that to anyone new, but I've league started with it for a long time now, and other than gauntlet I've never played bane. If nothing happens to either I'll go bane just because I've played this so much. If this gets buffed and nothing to bane, I'll go with ol' reliable.

I know I did my bane run in gauntlet, but I think cold dot felt better in campaign than bane, but as I got closer to maps and my bane radius increased as well as mob density, I think bane might feel better in maps.

Unless something drastic happens, both are top tier league starters.

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DamageIncorporated wrote:

Never played this and something is rubbing me wrong, but looking for clarification /assurance; using Ele Focus...disabling chilling ( and freezing with Hypothermia), doesn't that completely gut survivability? I guess Vortex does the chilling?

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Vennto wrote:

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sumfight wrote:

League started with it again. Great as usual. If you are on the fence about playing it, I go for 40/40 most of the time and in my opinion it's my favorite build to league start a heavy push with.

That's the only thing I'm on the fence when it comes to this build. I've played it this league as a finisher with very high end gear, and there the tankiness feels great, the dmg feels decent and it's very fun and smooth gameplay.

In prep of 3.19 I also ran cold dot since a lot of people praise its early game potential but quite honestly I don't see it. In direct comparison with Bane Occultist it loses every single comparison - it's less tanky, it has less boss dps and it definitely has less aoe clear compared to Bane + Profane Bloom. I even tried different variants, going from WTB to the final setup with Vortex/Cold Snap, pathing towards different keynodes for tankiness but nothing worked enough for me - so my genuine question: what's the progression rate u can achieve with it?
Maybe I just want too much than this build can deliver, because the Bane variant clears t13 blights on a 5link and level 80 with ssf-gear

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donbrawler wrote:

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DamageIncorporated wrote:

Never played this and something is rubbing me wrong, but looking for clarification /assurance; using Ele Focus...disabling chilling ( and freezing with Hypothermia), doesn't that completely gut survivability? I guess Vortex does the chilling?

Elemental Focus only affects the hit of the spells not the damage overtime. That is why Elemental Focus has been used on damage overtime builds for almost a decade :P


Hypothermia isn't used for the freeze either since you can only freeze with hits and Wintertide Brand doesn't hit at all. It's used for only one line "30% more damage overtime."



However, if you want to try a cold dot build that has freeze. I made a variant that has Herald of Ice explosions. Not cheap though!!

https://youtu.be/fq1dOFI_Z-s