[3.26] ShakCentral's Cold DoT Witch For Everyone

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kebal wrote:

9 of 10 top Vortex characters in this league use the Profane Bloom. I mean noone else but these guys know better how to level such character. And somehow they decided to go with Profane Bloom.

I don't what list your looking at dude , but none of us in top 4 are using profane bloom LMAO. Regen is more 100% important in maps than a little silly explosion from profane bloom that we hardly scale

https://poe.ninja/challenge/builds?class=Occultist&skill=Vortex&sort=dps

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kebal wrote:

9 of 10 top Vortex characters in this league use the Profane Bloom. I mean noone else but these guys know better how to level such character. And somehow they decided to go with Profane Bloom.

Shakcentral updated this guide so that it's better for the general public and what his takes are on it.

Honestly an asshole comment when he wrote a full and lengthy guide only to be picked at for something that's 2 preferred ascendancies.

Perhaps you can start a guide with it but he made it pretty clear why he would rather run Vile Bastion.

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warxtreme wrote:

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kebal wrote:

9 of 10 top Vortex characters in this league use the Profane Bloom. I mean noone else but these guys know better how to level such character. And somehow they decided to go with Profane Bloom.

Shakcentral updated this guide so that it's better for the general public and what his takes are on it.

Honestly an asshole comment when he wrote a full and lengthy guide only to be picked at for something that's 2 preferred ascendancies.

Perhaps you can start a guide with it but he made it pretty clear why he would rather run Vile Bastion.

don't worry dude that comment isn't even true all. Only 2 out of the top 10 use profane bloom and top 4 skip it. What people don't realize is cold dot doesn't scale the explosion as much as like BANE build. Its pretty much useless and I will take 1.5k regen in maps any day over some weak explosion :D

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donbrawler wrote:

don't worry dude that comment isn't even true all. Only 2 out of the top 10 use profane bloom and top 4 skip it. What people don't realize is cold dot doesn't scale the explosion as much as like BANE build. Its pretty much useless and I will take 1.5k regen in maps any day over some weak explosion :D

If you sort by DPS like the other guy, of course nobody is running Profane Bloom since they're running +2 amulets which is going to increase DPS by a lot. If you sort by exp, the higher level players (probably the ones that aren't dying) two out of three are running Profane Bloom.

At the end of the day, it's a matter of gear/choice. Profane Bloom builds run Presence of Chayula for stun immunity and have a much easier time capping chaos res, also the explosions are an irreplaceable layer of defense for on death effects.

Vile Bastion builds get lots of ES regen (which overlaps heavily with a good Vitality gem, aura scaling, Brush With Death, and Cinderswallow), more DPS with +2 amulets, but have much less chaos res.

Since enemies explode is the hardest thing to replace in that list, I like Profane Bloom for defense a lot better than Vile Bastion, assuming you have perfect gear.

I picked up a Watcher's Eye that has damage penetrates cold resist while Hatred if active but POB is only showing an increase of 1k damage. Is cold pen not very good for this build or am I missing something in POB?

https://pastebin.com/WLDiy9hY

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thrdechelonelite wrote:

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donbrawler wrote:

don't worry dude that comment isn't even true all. Only 2 out of the top 10 use profane bloom and top 4 skip it. What people don't realize is cold dot doesn't scale the explosion as much as like BANE build. Its pretty much useless and I will take 1.5k regen in maps any day over some weak explosion :D

If you sort by DPS like the other guy, of course nobody is running Profane Bloom since they're running +2 amulets which is going to increase DPS by a lot. If you sort by exp, the higher level players (probably the ones that aren't dying) two out of three are running Profane Bloom.

At the end of the day, it's a matter of gear/choice. Profane Bloom builds run Presence of Chayula for stun immunity and have a much easier time capping chaos res, also the explosions are an irreplaceable layer of defense for on death effects.

Vile Bastion builds get lots of ES regen (which overlaps heavily with a good Vitality gem, aura scaling, Brush With Death, and Cinderswallow), more DPS with +2 amulets, but have much less chaos res.

Since enemies explode is the hardest thing to replace in that list, I like Profane Bloom for defense a lot better than Vile Bastion, assuming you have perfect gear.

Yea I am all about choice. but is profane bloom the right choice though? I am also very experience vortex player and will have 4 level 100 characters. I and will tell you overtime I think Profane bloom is lacking and just not very strong for cold dot. I understand why people like explosions though they think it will save them from deaths, but overall more dps is biggest defense in this build.

Profane Bloom doesn't give more clear speed, the explosion don't chain and only explodes small group of packs. You use regular cold snap to kill small packs and it is just as effective as Profane Bloom.

So to those of you that are struggling getting past 92. think twice about taking profane and stop listening to people who just started playing vortex this league.

Anyone in the top 10 by level that is skipping EE, using transcendent mind and profane bloom should be ignored. because they are not solo players


And BTW I am top 5 by level

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Fizzx_Gaming wrote:

I picked up a Watcher's Eye that has damage penetrates cold resist while Hatred if active but POB is only showing an increase of 1k damage. Is cold pen not very good for this build or am I missing something in POB?

https://pastebin.com/WLDiy9hY

Cold Pen doesn't work with Dots

Any thoughts on Hextouch Stormbrand vs. Awakened Blasphemy (with Temp Chains)?

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NetherShadow wrote:

Any thoughts on Hextouch Stormbrand vs. Awakened Blasphemy (with Temp Chains)?

You can go either way and is up to you and your playstyle.

Downsides of Blasphemy
1. You will have less EE uptime on bosses since the trigger nerf and not self casting hurts EE.
2. You will need to switch to three self-control notables in the medium cluster setup to fit in auras.
3. Will overall have less DPS by loosing 18% aura effect switching to Self-control notables.

Upsides of Blasphemy
1. Its nice to have curses in maps and only should be used if you prefer profane bloom.
2. You not self casting curses.


Downside of Hextouch Stormbrand.
1. You won't have curses during mapping unless you self cast.
2. Uses one extra link so Unset ring is required.


Upsides of Hextouch Stormbrand.
1. Offers way more flexibility in the auras your choose early in maps.
2. Doesn't require huge invest in mana reserve or enlighten gems to fit in auras.
3. More DPS and ES with 18% more aura affect.
4. 100% EE uptime on bosses.



TIPS for clearing

1. Once you reach around 4mil dps you don't need curses in maps everything melts.

2. Regular Cold Snap should be used often (spammed if possible), with 3 frenzy charges you can sustain removing the cooldown of cold snap in maps.

3. Always use Vaal CS on cooldown.