[3.21] ShakCentral's Cold DoT Elementalist For Everyone

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donbrawler wrote:
For the new posters that are praising the aura stacker nerfs. You must be new and uninformed. The nerfs to aura stacker and cluster jewels hurt Occultist too!! Most of us who min max this build use notables like stalwart commander. Hopefully with the buffs Occultist got it balances out. Not to happy with the cluster jewel nerfs.

Yeah I was just joking, I really had no beef with stackers.

On a serious note, worst case scenario what kind of dps would we be hitting running min maxed low life version with no cluster jewels?
Last edited by Ubermonster#6541 on Jan 11, 2021, 8:41:31 PM
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Ubermonster wrote:
On a serious note, worst case scenario what kind of dps would we be hitting running min maxed low life version with no cluster jewels?


If I remove 2 of my 6 nodes 35% inc effect medium clusters (I just replaced them with normal cobalt jewels), I lose around 28% of my dps and 10% of my ES. So I go from 20m dps to 14.5m and from 10k es to 9k.

Other adjacent auras will suffer too (dread banner, flesh and stone, vitality, clarity and aspect of the spider).

Note that this is with standard luxury gear. In league I would be really amazed If I can reach 10m dps (which, for vortex, is pretty damn massive). I plan on 6m dps with excellent league gear. For the rest you need +2 corruption on your shavronne, double/triple eye.

Hope is that harvest will allow us to craft top gear, and the new maven orb might bring us some crazy stuff too.
Waiting on patch notes and POB. I will post updated min max version with aura clusters if its still worth it.

With the Ascendancy buffs, Harvest and apparently all of the targeted remove crafts from harvest being implemented. I can guarantee you should get 9-12Mil DPS in the League with just one Medium Cluster Jewel and Min Maxed Harvest crafted gear.
Last edited by donbrawler#1981 on Jan 11, 2021, 9:51:48 PM
Played vortex/cold snap through several leagues, and just came back to the game, so I was checking what's up with it, because I will prob make it my starter for next league. I noticed in the auras portion you mention disc + frostbite + malevolence, with the sidenote of, if you don't have enlighten lvl 3 to swap skitterbots in for malevolence. However, I see 35% for disc/frost/skitter with no reduced mana nodes in the tree. Am I missing something?
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roselan wrote:
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Ubermonster wrote:
On a serious note, worst case scenario what kind of dps would we be hitting running min maxed low life version with no cluster jewels?


If I remove 2 of my 6 nodes 35% inc effect medium clusters (I just replaced them with normal cobalt jewels), I lose around 28% of my dps and 10% of my ES. So I go from 20m dps to 14.5m and from 10k es to 9k.

Other adjacent auras will suffer too (dread banner, flesh and stone, vitality, clarity and aspect of the spider).

Note that this is with standard luxury gear. In league I would be really amazed If I can reach 10m dps (which, for vortex, is pretty damn massive). I plan on 6m dps with excellent league gear. For the rest you need +2 corruption on your shavronne, double/triple eye.

Hope is that harvest will allow us to craft top gear, and the new maven orb might bring us some crazy stuff too.


eh sup bro i'm back. and wtf are these numbers I see. mad numbers.

ascendancy changes make it very tempting to take vile bastion (finally). and to drop profane bloom while still having malediction. honestly with that kind of dps, I if i really wanted clear speed, i'd go back to my favourite boom boom wand - obliteration. just swap swap. i agree about high end, it frees up neck from requiring chayula's presence.
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donbrawler wrote:
For the new posters that are praising the aura stacker nerfs. You must be new and uninformed. The nerfs to aura stacker and cluster jewels hurt Occultist too!! Most of us who min max this build use notables like stalwart commander. Hopefully with the buffs Occultist got it balances out. Not to happy with the cluster jewel nerfs.


Hitting aura stackers was correct. Now, we min max in different ways.

Edit: I should add, it would have been nice to have nerfed aura stacking without hitting cases where people are just buffing their auras a bit, but just stacking all of the auras and piling on effect should be gone.
Last edited by KirenaStern#2922 on Jan 12, 2021, 5:01:34 AM
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donbrawler wrote:
Waiting on patch notes and POB. I will post updated min max version with aura clusters if its still worth it.

With the Ascendancy buffs, Harvest and apparently all of the targeted remove crafts from harvest being implemented. I can guarantee you should get 9-12Mil DPS in the League with just one Medium Cluster Jewel and Min Maxed Harvest crafted gear.



targeted craft are not been removed. Bex confirm it on Reddit. the only crafts removed was the life force ones
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I've had a bunch of people asking about a loot filter for progressing with the build. Click here to download my personalized loot filter from dropbox. There are over 500 changes from the base Neversink filter that are mostly related to leveling and spellcasters.


If possible please make your filters available through following?

https://www.pathofexile.com/account/view-profile/ShakCentral/item-filters

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Inialla wrote:
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donbrawler wrote:
Waiting on patch notes and POB. I will post updated min max version with aura clusters if its still worth it.

With the Ascendancy buffs, Harvest and apparently all of the targeted remove crafts from harvest being implemented. I can guarantee you should get 9-12Mil DPS in the League with just one Medium Cluster Jewel and Min Maxed Harvest crafted gear.



targeted craft are not been removed. Bex confirm it on Reddit. the only crafts removed was the life force ones


I was so happy to see this. I guess the rarities might be altered though, which is fine with me, things like targeted annuls should be very rare.
Really looking forward @Shakcentral, thanks for maintaining this guide.
As mentioned a few posts before, I will try SSF for the first time, since I dont have that much time anymore for playing and have to keep myself out of the competitive (economical) driven trade league.

The builds sounds pretty fitting for SSF and at least the last two GGG infos about the ascendancy changes and balancing didnt hurt this build to much (only at the highend were @roseland and @donbrawler chipped in with some first infos and numbers).

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