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bigdel wrote:
Hi
Just "done" pob 3.8 (https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/czg508/howto_add_38_tree_data_to_path_of_building/)
Yesterday build necro 3.7 90lvl solar guard lvl 84 and shaper dps = 0.94m*4.
Today convert him to 3.8. At 90lvl with lvl 84 spectres shaper dps = 0.558m*3.
Looks bad. It can be increased to 0.65m*3 at lvl necro 93.
84 spectres = +2 assendancy, 21gem and +1 wand. May be it give as fourth spec.
Else i see very expensive +3 helmet and +4 empower(less dps, +1 spec imho).
Still strong, but much more expensive. Now dontn know choose necro or no.


So 2 spectre from gem, 1 from passive. Do you have any idea where we get the 4th one?
Total agree this is worse league for spectre.
You get the 4th spectre from a yet to be confirmed level above L20 on the raise spectre skill gem.

Any of the gear that currently gave +1 spectres (Vis Mortis/Bones of Ullr) now give +1 to raise spectre skill gem level, so this shouldn't be too hard to do.
Did 3.8 make Slave Drivers/minions tankier?
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TheChosenOne_ wrote:
Did 3.8 make Slave Drivers/minions tankier?

Yes. which one i done solar guards 84lvl have around 14%less hp. But you will take high lvl spec. Elemental Army Support can give him 79% max res and indomitable army 15% phys damage reduction
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40700569 wrote:
You've forgot about one helmet suffix with essence: Socketed gems deal 30% more elemental damage, then we will have a pseudo 7 link spetre helmet for wand and shield build that have almost the same damage output with PoH builds (considering damage and level boost from the new Convoking wand).


Didn't forget, it's just ridiculously expensive to craft or buy. There was a 30% ele/conc/min damage helmet for sale early/mid-league that was listed for 30ex. I don't really consider ultra-expensive items for the build because almost no one will be able to get them.
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Quintessence wrote:
That is unfortunate, getting those is kind of a pain. Do you think leveling with this build will be much harder without the spectre node?


It should be fine. You just go with a mix instead of straight spectres, so combining with Zombies for example.
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bigdel wrote:
Hi
Just "done" pob 3.8 (https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/czg508/howto_add_38_tree_data_to_path_of_building/)
Yesterday build necro 3.7 90lvl solar guard lvl 84 and shaper dps = 0.94m*4.
Today convert him to 3.8. At 90lvl with lvl 84 spectres shaper dps = 0.558m*3.
Looks bad. It can be increased to 0.65m*3 at lvl necro 93.
84 spectres = +2 assendancy, 21gem and +1 wand. May be it give as fourth spec.
Else i see very expensive +3 helmet and +4 empower(less dps, +1 spec imho).
Still strong, but much more expensive. Now dontn know choose necro or no.


Don't forget that it's just a tree update. PoB doesn't know anything about the change to gems. The main issue is how Raise Spectre scales internally. In the patch notes, the nerf no longer applies, but we need to know more about dmg/life scaling. I hope they didn't leave it unchanged because that is definitely a drop in damage then.
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Last edited by kayella on Sep 4, 2019, 4:16:52 AM
Does that "physical dmg + blind" still work on wand? Still got open prefix left to craft. Any other suggestions? Got open profile.
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zomgplix wrote:
Does that "physical dmg + blind" still work on wand? Still got open prefix left to craft. Any other suggestions? Got open profile.


It doesn't work. Don't waste the craft. Physical + Blind only works if you do an attack with the wand (default attack). It doesn't work with spells!
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OK, I've been playing around the the new tree and I think I can get us a build with almost the same stats as before.

In 3.7:
SD = 986k dps 46k hp
Necro = 6677hp

In 3.8:
SD = 965k dps / 34k hp
Necro = 6252 hp

https://pastebin.com/CCUQCLiw

To get this pastebin to work:

1. you will need to follow the instructions here to update the tree to 3.8.
2. edit your Vis Mortis and replace 'Minions gain Unholy Might for 10 seconds on Kill' with 'Minions gain 20% of Elemental Damage as Extra Chaos Damage'.

Note: the 3.8 stats don't take into account either Bone Barrier (20% more minion life) or Plaguebringer (10% more minion damage).

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