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AutoQQ wrote:
What do you think will be the best way to get high level specters now?
+2 from necro, possibly +2 from 2 +1 spells wands or a staff I forget which. So that's easy 83 or 84. Would snapshotting them from a +3 minion helmet work?


I doubt GGG will leave in snapshotting, but they have said that Bones of Ullr no longer has +1 spectre, but instead +1 level minion gem. So, boots might another source.

A very expensive option would be an i86+ elder helmet with +3 minion gem with both minion damage support and concentrated effect support. +3 minion gem with only one support will probably have less damage than 2 supports.

Depending on how GGG has changed Raise Spectre scaling, linking with Empower can give 3 levels, but I doubt that 3 levels could outdo a simple damage support gem.
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I am fan of your builds,rly awesome! What do u think about spectr's life nerf? are they still playable?
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kayella wrote:
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Quintessence wrote:
Can they do reflect?


No. GFRs cannot do reflect. However, Risen Vaal Advocates can. They have a 540% life modifier so they have enough hp to simply regen/leech through ele ref maps. The fire and lightning are you best two options, but I recommend lighting because they shoot their lightning bolts almost 100% of the time. Their damage and cast rate are lower than the goats, though.

RVA T16 18% reflect mapping demo: https://youtu.be/X_rAjVaHEx8

They come from Azoatle or Vaal Outpost.


That is unfortunate, getting those is kind of a pain. Do you think leveling with this build will be much harder without the spectre node?
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kayella wrote:
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a_k_a wrote:
3 nodes mandatory: mindless aggression, bone barrier, +2 (unnatural strength).

for a 4th node: commander of darkness is not the best choice. Plague bringer is a lot better in terms of offense and defense. 10% damage reduction is insane. Resists you say? I think you'll have enough from the tree and now convocation will restore a lot of minion life anyways


I like Plague Bringer a lot. But here's a possible problem: how do you make sure you have corpses on the ground all the time?

You don't need the extra damage during map clear, so it doesn't really matter for that. But, endgame bosses usually have no adds or the adds leave no corpses. So you can self-cast Desecrate + Spell Cascade, which means you aren't staying mobile and are leaving yourself open to get hit by something. Also GGG has said they've reduced the corpse count. So, if you use an Offering, you consume corpses (not sure how many) & if you use Diadem, you consume 10 corpses. If you use both, you might find that you frequently have no corpses on the ground and Plague Bringer's buff becomes unreliable.

Commander is boring and kind of 'small' but it's reliable.


Yeah desecrate. It has no cooldown, spawns 4 corpses.

Immobile? Lol. You're a caster. And you're a summoner that has minions that do most of the job for you. What's the problem of running around and keeping desecrate?

Diadem? You aren't forced to use it. It's not the best helmet anyways especially since +3 helmet with pseudo links are going to be really good for spectres.

But you do you.
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kayella wrote:
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Revoltbr wrote:
I have followed this guide, creating a character 2 weeks before the GG, and all I can say is: Thanks for this amazing build, I had lots of fun and is totally starter-friendly.
Please, do keep with this amazing work!


Glad you enjoyed it. It was fun sharing ideas and tweaking the build throughout 3.7. I will be doing a full build revision as soon as I can fully work through tomorrow's patch notes!


That's awesome, I'm shit at theorycrafting, thanks! One thing: I practiced leveling this build in the weekend, and SRS felt really clunky (gonna be weaker with no +1 fire wand), while explosive trap felt much better most of the time, more dmg, more aoe, faster. What do you think?


I would say the same as far as leveling, you can do any number of spell builds.
I leveled as zombies with two spectres from act 3 and it was just fine. You can do 16 points into spell nodes and just level with a brand skill into act 5 which becomes super easy when you get a good spectre.
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kayella wrote:
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AutoQQ wrote:
What do you think will be the best way to get high level specters now?
+2 from necro, possibly +2 from 2 +1 spells wands or a staff I forget which. So that's easy 83 or 84. Would snapshotting them from a +3 minion helmet work?


I doubt GGG will leave in snapshotting, but they have said that Bones of Ullr no longer has +1 spectre, but instead +1 level minion gem. So, boots might another source.

A very expensive option would be an i86+ elder helmet with +3 minion gem with both minion damage support and concentrated effect support. +3 minion gem with only one support will probably have less damage than 2 supports.

Depending on how GGG has changed Raise Spectre scaling, linking with Empower can give 3 levels, but I doubt that 3 levels could outdo a simple damage support gem.


"Now allows you to raise additional Spectres as the gem levels, up to 2 maximum Raised Spectres at gem level 20 (and more at higher gem levels"

empower it is (depending on lv thresholds).

FYI:
"Using a Bound Fossil to craft boots will no longer grant +1 to Maximum number of Spectres. It instead now grants +1 to level of Raise Spectre gems. This also affects existing pairs of boots with this modifier."
"Vis Mortis: No longer grants +1 to maximum number of Raised Spectres or grants your minions Unholy Might when they kill an Enemy. Now causes minions to gain 15-20% of Elemental Damage as extra Chaos Damage."
Last edited by mc29654363 on Sep 4, 2019, 12:15:12 AM
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kayella wrote:
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AutoQQ wrote:
What do you think will be the best way to get high level specters now?
+2 from necro, possibly +2 from 2 +1 spells wands or a staff I forget which. So that's easy 83 or 84. Would snapshotting them from a +3 minion helmet work?


I doubt GGG will leave in snapshotting, but they have said that Bones of Ullr no longer has +1 spectre, but instead +1 level minion gem. So, boots might another source.

A very expensive option would be an i86+ elder helmet with +3 minion gem with both minion damage support and concentrated effect support. +3 minion gem with only one support will probably have less damage than 2 supports.

Depending on how GGG has changed Raise Spectre scaling, linking with Empower can give 3 levels, but I doubt that 3 levels could outdo a simple damage support gem.


You've forgot about one helmet suffix with essence: Socketed gems deal 30% more elemental damage, then we will have a pseudo 7 link spetre helmet for wand and shield build that have almost the same damage output with PoH builds (considering damage and level boost from the new Convoking wand).
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So patch notes Death Attunement survived with the +1 Spectre and since not mentioned I think the Delve chest with +1 Spectre also is still around.. Nerf to health of the most used Vaal Spectres the Lightning and Fire ones I believe. So hmm. It's looking more like you need really ranged Spectre to be able to keep them alive. Fire Sentinels and Solar Guards. Maybe also be a defensive setup with the meat shield gem plus the proximity shield boys that come in end of Act 3 Tower.
Last edited by Rebur on Sep 4, 2019, 12:48:38 AM
I'm curios what the verdict is after the patch notes....Stronger? Weaker? about the same?
Hi
Just "done" pob 3.8 (https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/czg508/howto_add_38_tree_data_to_path_of_building/)
Yesterday build necro 3.7 90lvl solar guard lvl 84 and shaper dps = 0.94m*4.
Today convert him to 3.8. At 90lvl with lvl 84 spectres shaper dps = 0.558m*3.
Looks bad. It can be increased to 0.65m*3 at lvl necro 93.
84 spectres = +2 assendancy, 21gem and +1 wand. May be it give as fourth spec.
Else i see very expensive +3 helmet and +4 empower(less dps, +1 spec imho).
Still strong, but much more expensive. Now dontn know choose necro or no.

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