[3.9] Pure Phys Skeletons & Friends Necromancer — Beginner/SSF/Budget Build

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idkwat wrote:

Gents, is it viable to use Pride? At the moment it resets half of my mana, which kind of sucks.. .Not sure the implications of this.

What about using Essence Worm ring. Your not reserve anything else are you? You shouldn't be anyway.

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Rebur wrote:

What about using Essence Worm ring. Your not reserve anything else are you? You shouldn't be anyway.

I can, but then I lose resistances and life. And no,I'm not reserving anything, but it's a really nice boost to damage.

Using this build, and man, playing Necro is like playing this game on easy mode.

Haven't got to red maps yet, only 2nd day of this build and I didn't know how to watchstone properly until a few days ago, but the damage seems absolutely bonkers. I believe my skellies are upwards of 100k dps each, and that's not even including the respectable damage my 8 zombies do, and the 2 golem bois.

Gonna work on getting a fat life chest and then 2 wands with +1 minion on it. Those plus when my gems are all level 20, with 20 qual, I can't imagine my damage being anything less than face melting, especially when I vaal.

Thanks for the build! I know what I'll league start with going forward :)

2 questions about wands:

- Does +1 to Level of all Minion Skill Gems as +1 to Level of all Spell Skill Gems
- Is accuracy at all valuable and if so, more than minion speed?

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Solanales wrote:

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Wushimushi wrote:

Hi guys,

Im having great fun so far, but im dying to 16 metamorphs and my damage seem lucklastre.

i have 3 ex to ugrade, what shoudl i look into next.

Thank you

Looks like you have negative chaos res still which is definitely something to work on at least getting to 0 this league. More is better if you can swing it.

Make sure you're using your bone armour skill as often as it's off cooldown. It's basically a free 2000hp so it's important to keep that up early and often.

For damage, make sure you're swapping out Multistrike for Melee Splash on bosses and metamorphs. It truly makes a huge difference. A plus 1 wand will go a long way for your damage and a +2 would do even more but I know those are probably beyond your budget at least for now.

Someone who uses the shield layout may know a bit more than me, but from what I hear they use shield charge + faster attacks + fortify for a bit more survivability. Might be something to look into but someone who knows better about that would be able to speak with more authority.

Really? I'm curious about why you'd swap out multistrike for bosses in favor of splash. Generally, I run multistrike always and I swap ruthless/melee splash out for bosses/metamorphs, etc. Leave splash in for clearing the map, swap to ruthless for the boss. I swear this seemed like the better combination when I was looking on PoB. Maybe I'm wrong.

AFAIK multistrike doesnt benefit Vaal sklills, but I Could be wrong.

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Ceefyra wrote:

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RKurozu wrote:

Spoiler

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Ceefyra wrote:

I cant kill Sirus, so my question is what should i change/improve
I have around 15exa to play with, appreciate all help.
Been playing for around 2 month so explain to me like im 5 :P

Thanks


Edit: Here is my PoB
https://pastebin.com/AXRfAkXr

1- Use dread banner it will be a nice damage bonus (60-100k) , you can drop faster casting for it , it really is not that usefull imo.

2- Level up and quality your gems to 20.

3- Get a 21/0 Vaal Summon Skeletons if you can.(They are pretty cheap)


These will raise your damage by 180k per skeleton you can link dread banner with generosity for an additional 30k damage increase.

Now onto more complex/expensive upgrades :

- Replace you helmet with a bone helmet that has also minion damage on it(like you current helm) , +2 to socketed minion gems really dont matter imo.

- Get a body armour with +1 to all socketed gems or +2 to level of socketed duration gems or both.

- Get wands which have both +1 to level all minion gems and +1 to level all spell gems and must have minions deal extra damage/have attack speed.(This cost min 10 ex so I only recommend this if you want to waste your currency for a 50-100k damage upgrade per wand)

Thanks for helping me, i got some follow up question.
Generosity should be link with Dread Banner you said, but where do i fit this in, what gem do i cut?
Do i quality all my gems to 20%?

How do i play with Dread Banner do i cast it once and keep carrying it or do i put it down on fights?

Personally I dropped enfeeble as I was not getting much out of it.

Dont quality gems like melee splash , blood magic and so on. You can see which ones will have an impact by quality'ing them on pob.

As for the banner cast it once and carry it dont drop it at any pointthe reason for this is that it wont gain any stages while carrying because our minions do the impaling not us.

Playing this on SSF HC and it's great!

Uber Atziri ~done
Elder ~done
Shaper ~done
Conquerors & Sirus ~done
Cortex boss ~done
(These fights has been smooth as butter) However,

Uber Elder was the one I found challenging maybe because of the two boss mechanics you'd have to juggle whilst fighting them.

This build is a blast and i'm wondering what else can I improve on this build? I have 10 ex

Sitting at 4.7kHP 900ES with 2.1kMana MoM (Yeah i know im pretty squishy but bone armour and spirit offering has been my friend for most of my mapping/bossing) most expensive gem I have would be my vaal skellies 21/20..

Would you guys suggest I should start investing on awakened gems?

Right now wand prices are getting astronomical as the days go by.. last wand i bought was 8ex and now they're like like 20+ already lol


And, I spent 2ex on fossil crafting my wands and it was a huge bust lol i used jagged, shuddering, corred and metallic on a 4 socketed resonator & got 0 +1 minions OR +1 skill gem. Followed the combo on reddit and wasn't sure if you guys would craft it the same way the OP did on reddit?

https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/dcdlxl/crafting_2_to_minion_gems_wand/

The link for the fossil crafting of the wand if you guys want to know

Howdy guys, hope you're all having an awesome day.



Taking advice from most of you good folks, I swapped out my gems for Impale + Dread Banner + Pride + Generosity, and the DPS skyrocketed. Honestly, I don't feel the difference without running Feeding Frenzy on the skeletons, because the Carrion Golems seem to be a steady source of it anyway.

I read that Feeding Frenzy allows the skeletons to dash, but I usually cast a fresh batch of them on each pack of monsters anyway, so losing the dash didn't seem to affect the performance of the skeletons.

Back to the point on impale, can someone explain to me how it works? Is there a difference using it versus non-bosses (that die in a single hit) versus bosses? Does Melee Splash work well with it? I'm pretty new to this, and I can't tell if the damage from Impale is splashed.

Also, do the skeletons proc the intimidate off Awakened Melee Physical Damage support?

Is there a rough visual gauge on how far Pride's aura extends?

I quote the wiki article on Dread Banner here:

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Assuming there are no other sources of aura effect on the passive tree and gear, a corrupted Dread Banner at level 20 with 22–23% quality will always outperform the gem at level 21 with sub-20% quality. The reason for this is that both round down to 21% increased Impale effect while 20% quality also provides an extra percent point of chance to Impale. Having a level 21 gem with 20% quality is, of course, superior to both, as it hits the breakpoints for both the chance and effect of Impale.

Since we are pairing it with Generosity, is there a sweet spot in terms of quality for both of the gems to aim for?

Thanks for reading, and good luck! ^ . ^