[2.6] SignalShot™ CI Full Ele Conversion TS/Barrage / Shaper & Uber Deathless / with video!

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pl4c3k wrote:

wouldnt be slower projectiles be better than added fire in barrage setup?

it is slightly, yes. barrage offers better quality of life in terms of micromanagement.

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pl4c3k wrote:

wouldnt be slower projectiles be better than added fire in barrage setup?

As stated right above the paper DPS is an increase. Just in paper dps on my character in HO its like a 10k increase. In game, however, I really do not notice much of a difference in damage. What I do notice is that the knock back from king of the hill, etc. usually pushes some of the bosses away from you far enough that in reality the barrage projectiles slow down and it is very noticeable sometimes where having added fire would not effect the attack speed/projectile speed when that happens. I may eventually go back to added fire after testing and playing with slower projectiles for a little bit yet the paper dps is higher for those of you that look at just that with slower projectiles. If you use mirrored stuff you do not get the benefit of really testing it yet those are my findings overall on the slower projectiles.

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Nephalim wrote:

I'm trying to compile a list of Tier 1 builds - Any build that can solo clear a T16 map in under X amount of time. Can someone with this build post a full T16 map run with no loot drop - start to finish with the boss kill? Shaper is mostly irrelevant for most players and there are far more cost effective builds to grind him.

Let's see this build where it actually matters - T16 map clears.

No one has a video of a T16 clear?
Is it safe to assume HoWA is better in every regard from a performance to cost ratio?

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Nephalim wrote:

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Nephalim wrote:

I'm trying to compile a list of Tier 1 builds - Any build that can solo clear a T16 map in under X amount of time. Can someone with this build post a full T16 map run with no loot drop - start to finish with the boss kill? Shaper is mostly irrelevant for most players and there are far more cost effective builds to grind him.

Let's see this build where it actually matters - T16 map clears.

No one has a video of a T16 clear?
Is it safe to assume HoWA is better in every regard from a performance to cost ratio?

i did a post today

guardians with 199IIQ 393IIR, priceless...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NT6X8GmXaSs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kx9x-EYYoMo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=31s1bZpHm7Y

i can't say about more budget builds, i know very well spectral throw, flicker, reave, blade flurry, kinetic blast

i clear the map as fast as a flicker 12 aps and nothing can beat it
i kill the boss as quick as a blade flurry ( blade flurry takes twice the time to clear the map )
i am ranged and i dont get hit

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InAshesTheyShallReap wrote:

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Nephalim wrote:

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Nephalim wrote:

I'm trying to compile a list of Tier 1 builds - Any build that can solo clear a T16 map in under X amount of time. Can someone with this build post a full T16 map run with no loot drop - start to finish with the boss kill? Shaper is mostly irrelevant for most players and there are far more cost effective builds to grind him.

Let's see this build where it actually matters - T16 map clears.

No one has a video of a T16 clear?
Is it safe to assume HoWA is better in every regard from a performance to cost ratio?

i did a post today

guardians with 199IIQ 393IIR, priceless...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NT6X8GmXaSs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kx9x-EYYoMo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=31s1bZpHm7Y

i can't say about more budget builds, i know very well spectral throw, flicker, reave, blade flurry, kinetic blast

i clear the map as fast as a flicker 12 aps and nothing can beat it
i kill the boss as quick as a blade flurry ( blade flurry takes twice the time to clear the map )
i am ranged and i dont get hit

Thank you! This is exactly what I wanted to see.
So at beyond god-tier gear this build can at best do a T16 map in 1 minute and 55 seconds.

This information deserves to be on the main post. No one does atziri and only a small amount of people do shaper at any consistency.

funny beyond god tier gear, everyone replies to me always in this way hahaha :D
1min 55 seconds and i even pick up the loot! i could gain 50-60k dps and 1k es without mf and i'd clean the map in 30 seconds
a 10ex of rings would let me gain 10-15% more dps compared to mines, a 400 es 400accuracy circlet isn worth like 3-4ex?.. so where is the beyond god tier gear?? ( except the bow )

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InAshesTheyShallReap wrote:

funny beyond god tier gear, everyone replies to me always in this way hahaha :D
1min 55 seconds and i even pick up the loot! i could gain 50-60k dps and 1k es without mf and i'd clean the map in 30 seconds
a 10ex of rings would let me gain 10-15% more dps compared to mines, a 400 es 400accuracy circlet isn worth like 3-4ex?.. so where is the beyond god tier gear?? ( except the bow )

Can you show me someone with better dps numbers or clear speed? Maybe a fully mirrored gear set? I have seen so much hype from this thread yet you were the first one to actually have a full T16 clear of it which is disturbing considering the vast majority of posters here will not have 5% of the currency to match the gear level presented by the regulars like yourself.


After a certain dps threshold, more dps is meaningless because you were already 1 shotting mods prior to that.

i would like to try this build but never get enough currency for brood twine xd

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Nephalim wrote:

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InAshesTheyShallReap wrote:

funny beyond god tier gear, everyone replies to me always in this way hahaha :D
1min 55 seconds and i even pick up the loot! i could gain 50-60k dps and 1k es without mf and i'd clean the map in 30 seconds
a 10ex of rings would let me gain 10-15% more dps compared to mines, a 400 es 400accuracy circlet isn worth like 3-4ex?.. so where is the beyond god tier gear?? ( except the bow )

Can you show me someone with better dps numbers or clear speed? Maybe a fully mirrored gear set? I have seen so much hype from this thread yet you were the first one to actually have a full T16 clear of it which is disturbing considering the vast majority of posters here will not have 5% of the currency to match the gear level presented by the regulars like yourself.


After a certain dps threshold, more dps is meaningless because you were already 1 shotting mods prior to that.

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/118340074 - 56 second > 7 remaining Minotaur run

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/118304844 full VOD which includes dozens of guardian runs. Will be clipping a phoenix and hydra run from there and editing this post.

These were just one off attempts, if we're really going for some land speed record I can min max the times even more.

Also where can we see this list your compiling? Are you factoring in builds that do not use movement skills vs ones that do? Any sort of criteria at all?

Not to be rude but you seem to have randomly come out of no where, demanding guardian runs and discrediting atziri/shaper kills, and how only t16's matter? I believe that's why you haven't gotten many responses yet.

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Not to be rude but you seem to have randomly come out of no where, demanding guardian runs and discrediting atziri/shaper kills, and how only t16's matter? I believe that's why you haven't gotten many responses yet.

Because they don't. Very few players will ever be investing much of their playtime to shaper and even less to uber atziri. There are far better builds if you wish to grind event bosses and hover at level 92 for the entire character's career. You should post this video on your main post in addition to your uber and shaper vids for the same reason.

If someone is going to invest 1000 exalts in a build it should be exceptional in as many areas as possible.

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https://www.twitch.tv/videos/118340074 - 56 second > 7 remaining Minotaur run

Thanks, this is exactly what I wanted to see. Hundreds of exalts poured into a build on a blue sea witch T16. This is the fastest T16 I've seen so far.

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These were just one off attempts, if we're really going for some land speed record I can min max the times even more.

I would very much like to see how far you can push the clear time.