[2.6] SignalShot™ CI Full Ele Conversion TS/Barrage / Shaper & Uber Deathless / with video!

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caprice256 wrote:
Really awesome build that Im having tons of fun with! I have a question regarding harbinger vs ROTC though, mostly targeted @Rupenus because of his bow damage formula, specifically:

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guys here is the damage comparison formula for harbingers vs reach

harbinger dps points:

>(harbingers crit chance / 6.00(rotc crit chance)) x arrow number(everything included) x DPS of the bow

rotc dps points;

DPS x arrow number;

whatever bow has higher points choose that one


So, I have these 2 bows:

ROTC - 358 DPS, 6 crit, 13 arrows barrage with flasks. 4654 points based on formula. I get 75k tooltip DPS with 5 power charges + flasks. So, 975k DPS with 13 arrows.

Harbinger - 391 DPS, 9.3 crit, 9 arrows barrage with flasks. 5454 points based on formula. I get 105k tooltip DPS with 5 power charges + flasks. So, 945k DPS with 9 arrows.

Doesn't seem like the formula is right though. Based on the formula, harbinger should be 17% stronger compared to ROTC. Mind you, I have a TON of global crit multiplier too (443%), so harbinger should be even stronger, but that doesn't seem to be the case. Please help! Trying to figure out which bow I should keep now.

Thanks!

Hi, can I get an answer to my question I asked previously? Thanks!
i dont know your gem setups so i didnt answer to that, in your case binger is still better, having less arrow for same dps is something good for this build, it's kinda better for CI builds cause it means you gonna miss less shots due to lack of accuracy.
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Trying this build out atm. Gear not optimised really but damage output still isn't as high as I thought it would be.
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Any tips on how I can squeeze out some more damage? Thanks!
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danciderus wrote:
Trying this build out atm. Gear not optimised really but damage output still isn't as high as I thought it would be.
Spoiler


Any tips on how I can squeeze out some more damage? Thanks!



20 /20 gems. 4 property jewels (see you currently using 3 atm). Penetration vinktar's over attack. Attack/cast speed boot enchant OR the ele pen if you have not killed recently enchant. More character levels (lack of alchemist wheel is huge, both for QoL and damage!)

This build shines with real min-maxing, keep at it man. Your gear is pretty damn solid though just work on the few things listed above.
Hi perfection, thx for this crazy build.

I m trying to build it right now, I have a lot of work to do (no jewel actualy, not enough chroma to put all my gemms, not all my skills are 20/20,...) but right now i have a question:

On the stuff you advice, there is no life leech, so you only have life leech with your Vinktar? Because i dont have it yet and its quite hard to survive after t13+ map without lifeleech :(

Thx for your work mate, and sry for my english, not my first language.
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Beagup wrote:
Hi perfection, thx for this crazy build.

I m trying to build it right now, I have a lot of work to do (no jewel actualy, not enough chroma to put all my gemms, not all my skills are 20/20,...) but right now i have a question:

On the stuff you advice, there is no life leech, so you only have life leech with your Vinktar? Because i dont have it yet and its quite hard to survive after t13+ map without lifeleech :(

Thx for your work mate, and sry for my english, not my first language.


The legacy vinktar "elite" version relies only on vinktar for mana and life leech. The version you would want to be using relies on vinktar + vaal pact + the duelist leech nodes "vitality void". Use the correct tree listed in guide, not the elite one.

If you do not have a vinktar, go vitality void leech + vaal pact. I must tell you though, this build was designed specifically around using a vinktar and exploiting it's leech/damage potential. It's very important to have the correct gear before really attempting this build. Flasks... proper ES gear.. bow (harby or rotc) etc.
Everything feels really good, gameplay is amazing for all but one thing, 40 mana left after the three auras are up. Sorry if this is a noob problem, but I have herald of ash, disc, and hatred running and I am down to almost nothing. I am still able to get most shots off, but in big breaches, I hear "out of mana" pretty often.

The character is ragingrandy in my profile. Appreciate any insight.
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I must tell you though, this build was designed specifically around using a vinktar and exploiting it's leech/damage potential. It's very important to have the correct gear before really attempting this build. Flasks... proper ES gear.. bow (harby or rotc) etc.


Does this mean you shouldn't expect solid performance in league then? Curious because I'm working on this build right now and liking how it's setting up, but if I can't expect solid uber atziri and shaper runs without legacy vinktar I might need to find something else.
Last edited by thismat on Jan 28, 2017, 8:18:05 PM
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phocas99 wrote:
Everything feels really good, gameplay is amazing for all but one thing, 40 mana left after the three auras are up. Sorry if this is a noob problem, but I have herald of ash, disc, and hatred running and I am down to almost nothing. I am still able to get most shots off, but in big breaches, I hear "out of mana" pretty often.

The character is ragingrandy in my profile. Appreciate any insight.


Enlighten Gem to LvL 4 should get you to a comfortable level or spec into a reduction node if needed.
Last edited by NewbieDOTcom on Jan 28, 2017, 8:36:14 PM
I'm trying to compile a list of Tier 1 builds - Any build that can solo clear a T16 map in under X amount of time. Can someone with this build post a full T16 map run with no loot drop - start to finish with the boss kill? Shaper is mostly irrelevant for most players and there are far more cost effective builds to grind him.

Let's see this build where it actually matters - T16 map clears.

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Last edited by Nephalim on Jan 28, 2017, 9:52:13 PM

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