GGGs reasoning on not making a SFL?

I'd like to only play self found for sure.
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Xavderion wrote:
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glh5 wrote:
Sorry, but that is a fallacy. PoE is definitely easier right now than it will ever be in a SFL. Simply because of poe.xyz, RMT, botting, and trading in general. In the current situation, you can buy everything you desire instantly. Even if a shavronne's dropped every piety kill, you'd still have to kill it and it's less than instant so harder.


Yes, if you cheat. In a SFL, you can also buy an account with a Shavronne's for real money. Your point is invalid.


So any time a player wants a specific item he has to RMT an entire account? ya that sounds like it will work just as well as in the current leagues....
Standard Forever
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tinko92 wrote:
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Xavderion wrote:

I'd say the number one characteristic of a casual player is that he doesn't want to invest either time or actually himself (if that makes sense) in order to have some fun with a game.

To answer your questions, chess can be a casual game, it's very easy to learn. And playing Temple Run 6+ hours a day makes someone a hardcore Temple Run player, yes. If he does this with most games he plays, then he's a hardcore gamer, yes.


Agreed.

How can you comment on these assumptions that casuals want SFL?
Why is someone, who wants to gear up (competitively) with killing monsters a casual, and the one who gears up through trade a hardcore player?

That's the biggest argument from anti-SFL crowd, and I personally think that it's crap.


@aldorus

Thanks for the nice post.

I'm curious what would the results be with a SFL poll, a real ingame poll.
To check how many players would be interested, and then make a business decision, either to make it as a 20$ fee or just make it free and go on with donations, or don't do nothing.

I really believe it wouldn't fail based on money part.


They already made their decision or there would be an announcement that a SFL is coming.
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DirkAustin wrote:

They already made their decision or there would be an announcement that a SFL is coming.


I believe their policy is to not make announcements on new leagues before their release. They did mention cutthroat over a year ago, though, so who knows? Then again, they mentioned a better trade system was coming over a year ago, and they still haven't got that in. Maybe they've decided to implement it, but don't want to spill the beans and hear 'When's SFL coming?' for the next 18-24 months.
No. Calm down. Learn to enjoy losing.
''Yes, if you cheat. In a SFL, you can also buy an account with a Shavronne's for real money. Your point is invalid.[/quote]


Umm.. If someone is playing SFL, it is because they want to farm their own gear. Why the hell would they buy an account lmao?

I would like to add that anyone who would buy an entire account to get an edge in a ''self found league'' must have absolutely zero shame or dignity.
Last edited by xxSerpentlordxx#0809 on Apr 28, 2014, 12:15:49 PM
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xxSerpentlordxx wrote:
''Yes, if you cheat. In a SFL, you can also buy an account with a Shavronne's for real money. Your point is invalid.



Umm.. If someone is playing SFL, it is because they want to farm their own gear. Why the hell would they buy an account lmao?

I would like to add that anyone who would buy an entire account to get an edge in a ''self found league'' must have absolutely zero shame or dignity.[/quote]

Not to mention that they'd likely need to respec the character,obtain needed/wanted gems and re-gear other pieces to even play the build they'd like,keeping in mind that's all got to be acquired self found as well.

That RMT shav account is starting to look like a bit of a lemon. lol
Last edited by Temper#7820 on Apr 28, 2014, 12:28:11 PM
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DirkAustin wrote:
Well, i am happy will all the decisions GGG has made so far.


You, sir, are in a minuscule minority. Almost everyone has a gripe about PoE. Be it desync, nerfing, endgame, SFL, etc. I'm glad you think the game is absolutely perfect, but even the devs don't think that way. What's your angle? Trying to become a mod or something?
Anti-SFL crowd under this thread are huge casuals.

To avoid name and shame accusations I want to state that I think there is nothing wrong with being obsessed with PoE forum. Also probably I'm one with 2000+ posts,

but looking at all your post counts;

ScrotieMcB - 8193
DirkAustin - 7139
Xavderion - 5187

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You're players that can't get satisfaction from playing the game because you're not good at it or some any other reason and get a kick out of being annoyance to SF players with your poorly-built arguments and spamming them as facts.

In contrast to your beliefs, accusing others for being casuals without a basis and trying to invalidate their opinions with your bullshit won't make you any superior, actually it is sad, so please do yourselves a favor and stop it.
No longer a forum dweller, please use PM for contact purposes.
Last edited by Simon_GGG#0000 on Apr 28, 2014, 2:55:18 PM
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xxSerpentlordxx wrote:
''Yes, if you cheat. In a SFL, you can also buy an account with a Shavronne's for real money. Your point is invalid.



Umm.. If someone is playing SFL, it is because they want to farm their own gear. Why the hell would they buy an account lmao?

I would like to add that anyone who would buy an entire account to get an edge in a ''self found league'' must have absolutely zero shame or dignity.[/quote]

Because people want to get to the top of the ladder asap? Since you people want the SFL so bad for a ladder and other reasons people would wanna be in SFL and still RMT their way to the top buy buying and selling accounts.
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DirkAustin wrote:
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xxSerpentlordxx wrote:
''Yes, if you cheat. In a SFL, you can also buy an account with a Shavronne's for real money. Your point is invalid.



Umm.. If someone is playing SFL, it is because they want to farm their own gear. Why the hell would they buy an account lmao?

I would like to add that anyone who would buy an entire account to get an edge in a ''self found league'' must have absolutely zero shame or dignity.


Because people want to get to the top of the ladder asap? Since you people want the SFL so bad for a ladder and other reasons people would wanna be in SFL and still RMT their way to the top buy buying and selling accounts.[/quote]

See, your whole reasoning is based on something foreign to most SSF players. I don't give a shit about a ladder. I don't give a shit if you want to trade. I don't care if you RMT an account. I simply want to enjoy the game. This is something you trade-to-win types can't comprehend. You don't understand why flexing your e-peen for others to see isn't everyones major focus.

Go right ahead and buy an account. If that's what gets your rocks off then more power to you.
Last edited by bluefalcon74#6991 on Apr 28, 2014, 12:54:13 PM

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