Patch Notes - 1.1.0 Patch Notes - Sacrifice of the Vaal - Forum

" Sneakypaw wrote: OP build = 150% Effectiveness Normal build =100% Effectiveness Buffing normal build to 150% Effectiveness To prevent power creep, Effectiveness gets scaled down to 100% across the board. This is the same as: OP build = 150% Effectiveness Normal build = 100% Effectiveness Nerfing OP build to 100% Effectiveness but.. but, nerfs are bad Last edited by 2ofSpades#4172 on Mar 4, 2014, 9:45:30 AM	Posted by 2ofSpades#4172 on Mar 4, 2014, 9:44:59 AM Quote this Post
such great changes , Hype for the new passive tree	Posted by Qrotiec#1422 on Mar 4, 2014, 9:47:16 AM Quote this Post
agein ggg desideds to look up the counter spec i did make a big guide to after they destroyed the last build i did in beta... history repeats it self... to tell the truth i feal chris Wilson is having me added to players he keep a look at. and what i produce will get nerfed... dont worry chris i will break ure game agein....... IGN jauertemplar Jauershadow Last edited by Jauer#2388 on Mar 4, 2014, 9:49:13 AM	Posted by Jauer#2388 on Mar 4, 2014, 9:48:31 AM Banned Quote this Post
Thanks you GG you destroy my build. Nerf vaal pact ...	Posted by Zegedron#2429 on Mar 4, 2014, 9:48:47 AM Quote this Post
" Sneakypaw wrote: OP build = 150% Effectiveness Normal build =100% Effectiveness Buffing normal build to 150% Effectiveness To prevent power creep, Effectiveness gets scaled down to 100% across the board. This is the same as: OP build = 150% Effectiveness Normal build = 100% Effectiveness Nerfing OP build to 100% Effectiveness Reading comprehension of a pre-schooler - check. There's a good way to nerf something and a bad way. For example, Spark was fine the way it was. It was the interaction with a few uniques and passive keystones that made Spark grotesquely overpowered. Logical solution? nerf the interactions. GGG Solution? NERF EVERYTHING. Crit builds weren't such a bad idea considering the heavy investment and heavy trade-off, especially considering where Vaal Pact was moved. Logical solution? Nerf crit mechanics. GGG Solution? NERF VAAL PACT. You're putting a band-aid on a gunshot wound and hoping it'll go away. Nice backwards ass approach around your solutions. Are you sure you're not Chris' alt account? If you're reading this, I'm probably on another year-long ban. Thanks GGG.	Posted by casval776#6397 on Mar 4, 2014, 9:50:05 AM On Probation Quote this Post
Looks good. Looks good. Definitely some changes I was hoping to see addressed. Well done! Probably one of the main ones that I'm surprised not to see is: no mention of any Witch start changes (I thought it was on the cards, but maybe I'm wrong, or maybe it'll be later). Looks good though, and I can't wait to see the new passive tree and play the new content.	Posted by valtherion#7939 on Mar 4, 2014, 9:50:17 AM Quote this Post
Nerf, nerf dont know need to see that magic tree comon show us the tree...	Posted by mirificel#1224 on Mar 4, 2014, 9:51:19 AM Quote this Post
"Fixed a problem that could cause crashes on certain Creative sound hardware." Say it ain't so? Only took 2 years to fix the BSODs with it.	Posted by ozzy9832001#0630 on Mar 4, 2014, 9:52:13 AM Quote this Post
" casval776 wrote: " foufa wrote: aaaaah all these complaints and fear of change make me remember our old friend Phase run. You all have to know that whinning because your build that you were playing for 6 mounths is kind of silly, diversity comes from nerfing the high power builds to make place for the normal power builds to balance things out. You should know that some nerfs made you consider some new builds that helped having fun and discovering new views of the game, change is always hard so why not just shut the hell up and consider what was good in the expansion. There are so many good in it, just look. No, that's not how diversity works. You have two basic types of diversity in online games: 1) Everything is on a leveled playing field and the only separation is how the player chooses to make use of their options. No one skill, build, or piece of equipment is inherently better than the others. Obviously GGG failed at this since Alpha. 2) You have certain builds, skills, or pieces of equipment that are better than the others. To keep things fresh, you remove what made them exceptionally better than its competitors while still keeping it viable and slightly buff alternatives to move the meta into another direction. On #2, this is where GGG obviously failed like so many other publishers before them. The keywords here are "While still keeping it viable." Obviously, by this, GGG took the option to nerf everything into the ground by taking the most backwards ass approach to it. Spark was a great option due to the AoE saturation. What was GGG's response to this? Better nerf every component to the Low-Life build and Spark with it. That way, all elements of the build are ridiculously useless. You can't perfectly balance every skill in a complex system like this. There will always be skills that are a little better than others. And since people these days are all about cookie cutter and best effiency the majority will use these "better" skills. The crying on the forums about other things not being viable keeps going on while most people don't realise that most things are completly viable at late game - just not AS good as the top once. But does it really matter? No, because the main game is more about building builds one thinks are fun and the competetive part of the game is seperated in races. Don't get me wrong, there are things that need to be buffed/reworkd (like Sweep, Cleave, Arctic Breath e.g.). Also, you cannot buff everything to match the OP builds because this would lead to Power Creep which would destroy the game. You have to carefully chose where to buff and where to nerf. GGG doesn't always make the right decisions of course. But flaming everything without thinking about the consequences isn't going to help, either.	Posted by fadekill#2729 on Mar 4, 2014, 9:52:42 AM Quote this Post
CTRL + F "Cleave" Nope. #1 Victim of Murphy's Law.	Posted by SlixSC#6287 on Mar 4, 2014, 9:52:43 AM Quote this Post