Is it just me, or the Lore & Story is weak and boring?

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Direfell#7544 wrote:

Campaign story is a bit boring to me now, but thats cause ive played it multiple times. im not coming back for that part anyway.

Think the best PoE lore/story comes from the layers of world building added league after league with new npcs and items. The obscure lore blurbs scattered across items similar to fromsoft games are something I really enjoy and they feel conistant enough to try and piece together deeper meaning.

Like pondering; what the dying/dead sun is all about, where/when are harbingers from, why is Chayula so mean to the other breachlords- they just want to be really close friends, what the hell is a solstice rhoa and can i have one... so many mysteries.

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Skutz123#5377 wrote:

It's not just you friend. It feels directionless and full of inconsistencies. There's no weight behind the characters words or actions, especially not your own, and really no connection that you feel with any person or place in the world.

Should we expect amazing writing from a game such as this? Not realistically, but shit it woulda been nice. The blame lies with the customers, the player base anyway. Why should GGG pay for quality writing, or spend any resources on plot construction, narrative consistency, etc...when most of their customers will accept complete and total slop. I mean, just take a look at a few of the comments here, and take a look at 90% of the names people use in global chat...those are your peers.

Moreover in todays world why would they take any narrative risk at all when no one's demanding it from them. So yeah, you're gonna get what you get and its probably not gonna be great. You can only cross your fingers that it's not like Monster Hunter Wilds bad.

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ArdeleanuG#2185 wrote:

Fair point, especially the one about the character's background
For example, I keep hearing my Monk mentioning 'The Dreamer' , stuff like 'The Dreamer provides' , 'By the Dreamer'

Who is the Dreamer? A god /deity , a Hero of old?
so many plot holes

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yosheee89#3525 wrote:

hmmm maybe we'll get a breach questline in 0.5...

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ArdeleanuG#2185 wrote:

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Skutz123#5377 wrote:

It's not just you friend. It feels directionless and full of inconsistencies. There's no weight behind the characters words or actions, especially not your own, and really no connection that you feel with any person or place in the world.

Should we expect amazing writing from a game such as this? Not realistically, but shit it woulda been nice. The blame lies with the customers, the player base anyway. Why should GGG pay for quality writing, or spend any resources on plot construction, narrative consistency, etc...when most of their customers will accept complete and total slop. I mean, just take a look at a few of the comments here, and take a look at 90% of the names people use in global chat...those are your peers.

Moreover in todays world why would they take any narrative risk at all when no one's demanding it from them. So yeah, you're gonna get what you get and its probably not gonna be great. You can only cross your fingers that it's not like Monster Hunter Wilds bad.

Fair point, especially the one about the character's background
For example, I keep hearing my Monk mentioning 'The Dreamer' , stuff like 'The Dreamer provides' , 'By the Dreamer'

Who is the Dreamer? A god /deity , a Hero of old?
so many plot holes

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lupasvasile#5385 wrote:

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ArdeleanuG#2185 wrote:

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Skutz123#5377 wrote:

It's not just you friend. It feels directionless and full of inconsistencies. There's no weight behind the characters words or actions, especially not your own, and really no connection that you feel with any person or place in the world.

Should we expect amazing writing from a game such as this? Not realistically, but shit it woulda been nice. The blame lies with the customers, the player base anyway. Why should GGG pay for quality writing, or spend any resources on plot construction, narrative consistency, etc...when most of their customers will accept complete and total slop. I mean, just take a look at a few of the comments here, and take a look at 90% of the names people use in global chat...those are your peers.

Moreover in todays world why would they take any narrative risk at all when no one's demanding it from them. So yeah, you're gonna get what you get and its probably not gonna be great. You can only cross your fingers that it's not like Monster Hunter Wilds bad.

Fair point, especially the one about the character's background
For example, I keep hearing my Monk mentioning 'The Dreamer' , stuff like 'The Dreamer provides' , 'By the Dreamer'

Who is the Dreamer? A god /deity , a Hero of old?
so many plot holes

Dreamer will be added in new Breach storyline.
Sadly POE 2 is at the disatvantage of having the story continue from POE 1. So a lot of the lore and refrences are lost if you haven't played the first one.

In POE 1 we've already had a league focused on improved Breach and the Dreamer.

Spoiler

The Dreamer is Chayula, a Breach Lord.

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ArdeleanuG#2185 wrote:

Fair point, especially the one about the character's background
For example, I keep hearing my Monk mentioning 'The Dreamer' , stuff like 'The Dreamer provides' , 'By the Dreamer'

Who is the Dreamer? A god /deity , a Hero of old?
so many plot holes

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Skutz123#5377 wrote:

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ArdeleanuG#2185 wrote:

Fair point, especially the one about the character's background
For example, I keep hearing my Monk mentioning 'The Dreamer' , stuff like 'The Dreamer provides' , 'By the Dreamer'

Who is the Dreamer? A god /deity , a Hero of old?
so many plot holes

It's beyond just tidbits that feel out of context if you don't know the PoE1 lore...for me my problems with the story are more general with just the entire feel and direction.

Why was my character at the gallows, did I deserve it, was I railroaded by some unjust system? Why don't I seem super concerned that anyone's after me afterwards etc.?

The whole World is being slowly corrupted by a nebulous evil malevolent force (not exactly an original plot that we haven't seen 10,000 times before...), corruption. Guess I better help for some reason even though it seems like I might be a self interested shady character.... after all this weird entity that later tells me he's a god named Sin or whatever asked me nicely. Probably gonna get myself killed, but its ok, I suddenly decided without explanation to become a martyr for the world that just tried to kill me for some reason that wasn't explained.

Sure. I'll help these Desert People who use 500 or so slaves hitched up like mules to pull their massive caravan, even though I've seen plenty of giant magical beasts in this world that would probably do a better job, take less food, and be a million times less likely to revolt...these guys seem fine. Not evil at all, I'm cool allying with them.

Doryani was a genocidal maniac that almost destroyed his entire civilization? You don't say... hey no prob. After I hit him on the head real hard he said he was gonna help, so I'm good with him tagging along. Trust me bro, he changed his ways. (it would be unforgivably lazy of them if they do the old he was faking it and becomes the final boss at the end too)

Tavakai stop apologizing... its totally ok that you tried to kill me and selfishly caused all those people's deaths. You had a bad day ok, just go take some time to self reflect on that pirate ship in the docks. You can come back and join up again after your time out in the corner. I totally don't think you should suffer any consequences for your actions.

You get my point...the whole thing feels like there were pre determined characters and ideas/concepts that we're awkwardly shoehorned in, and it just kills the story cohesion and immersion.

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Kalerteth#1420 wrote:

I'm better than all of you, because I read the lore. And dungeon crawler Carl, an epic literature piece on par with Shakespeare.