One Character. All Ascendancies. True Build Freedom
" Do you understand what we all are talking about here Did you even read? |
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" Or would the choices simply become obvious? Having infinite options to choose from doesnt equate to infinite builds. Players converge on what works/feels fun and the rest is disgarded. Having forced restrictions, such as class starting points/ascendancies, limits that convergance and maintains some level of variaty. Having restrictions on the power we choose also allows the game to offer more impactful options to choose from without wrecking the balance of the game / power creeping all builds equally. Please GGG, I need my sparkly crown MTX in PoE2.
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The only people who give a shit about "meta" are the people looking up and copying other peoples builds and ideas anyway. They're going to continue doing that regardless, especially since GGG has decided to make letting other people do your thinking for you an official way to play.
Regardless of what changes they ever make, those people will just copy the most powerful of the builds they see some other idiot on youtube using. Opening up the tree so you can select your starting area doesn't change that in any way. At all. The only thing that part changes is the sprite you use for your character since starting area and sprite would no longer be tied together. You could be a big burly black guy who starts off near crossbow or spell skills instead of tribal totems. You could be a 5 foot tall woman who starts near the double barrel "crossbow" passives. It does nothing other than allow people to play the class they want while also selecting the sprite they prefer. There are zero changes to balance from that. Opening up ascendancies as well would give the people who don't give any shits about "meta" or what people on youtube are doing more flexibility to do interesting things with their characters. The folk who prefer to not think for themselves will continue to do that regardless, but those who like to make interesting builds and try new things instead of just copying whatever is popular at the moment could do that. A high dexterity chill Stormweaver with all crossbow passives? Why not? A big black Titan focused on attack speed and crit with (eventually... maybe...) daggers? How far could you make it with that build? It's going back to the Throw Barbarian goofy shit. The fun shit. Playing games to have fun, not to make sure you've copied the bestest best online build of the moment. And if it gives those people new things to copy? Who cares? I don't give the slightest shit what builds those people are copying. Posting to ask whats wrong with the character you're easily cleaning screens with in a click because you don't seem to be spamming quite as many comets as the videos you copied everything from seems like a horribly sad way to play a video game. Last edited by AbyssianOne#1625 on May 9, 2026, 8:40:22 AM
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" Do You understand how your proposal would affect build variety? Did you even think a bit? " I think most players playing trade league, which is majority, give a shit about meta. Economy does not forgive. Even among SSfers and HCers we will find people who give a shit about meta. Some of them do race too after all. I also disagree that all meta shit givers are brainless copypasters - majority of them are but there are still plenty of people who would rather see more posibilites to create/try/copypaste meta comparable builds than less. So i think your "only", implying we`re not talking about that many people or people of less importance, was misused here. As i said earlier, this concept for somewhat competitive game is simply utopian. It is incredibly difficult to balance things now and it will get significantly more difficult to balance it after. Last edited by SalamiHaze#9389 on May 9, 2026, 9:07:10 AM
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" I've played a sub-par meme build every league and i care very much about this, So this is just wrong. Maybe i should have used a better word other than meta earlier, because what I really meant was the variaty of viable builds(which is what the meta converges onto). Please GGG, I need my sparkly crown MTX in PoE2.
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" Agree! Meta slaves will always copy builds no matter what GGG does. Letting players choose any starting area or ascendancy wouldn’t hurt balance — it would just separate gameplay choices from character appearance and open up way more creative, goofy, fun builds. People who enjoy experimenting would gain freedom, while copy-pasters would keep copying anyway. More build variety and player expression is a good thing. |
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Hell no...I don't even like that almost every build can do every kind of content. I would prefer like it was in the past (One a good but overall weak league starter, one build as a good Bosskiller, one a good mapper, one a good whatever). People get lazier and lazier, I don't like that at all. HCSSF - What else?
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" you can literally do all the things by just creating new character and rerunning the campaign.... the only slog is campaign rerun, so why have it? |
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Some players don't like the repeated play. Most of them born in 70's,80's. You can't force them change their play style build through years. It's their choice to keep one character and play in Standard League always.
If you like repeated play go play LOL. Poe2 shouldn't be one of them. Bring us Event's inside Standard League and abandon any future League plans. This would help gather all players in one place. |
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I don't mind redoing the campaign at all. I actually prefer it to fully respeccing a character. I'd just prefer the wider range of build varieties in a truly open system.
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