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Tired of patches that are destroying the fun of the game

I dont understand how anybody can deemed this game fun if devs are constantly pushing out patches that are several pages long and will most likely destroy your builds that you play for hundreds of hours. I will go back to playing grim dawn, torchlight 2, titan quest and other ARPGS where I know that my builds will be good even 10+ years down the line.
Last bumped on Dec 8, 2025, 6:21:59 PM
so you want for devs to never change meta and items for 10+ years so everyone would play the same builds for 10+ years every single league? yeah....no you can go play those games bye for a reason PoE is still the most popular and best arpg while those other games you named are all dead
Last edited by NukeFonKillazz#4119 on Dec 5, 2025, 4:38:01 AM
I havent said that meta have to stay the same. I think that people should be able to pick any skill in a game and able to play with the skill which is not the case in this game unless you have piles of Mirrors, divines most skill gems are simply not worth investing in them because they are too weak compare to your "meta" builds. The game is setup that if you are not playing the meta which is couple of skills each league you will have terrible time of trying out anything else. I just want true variaty and not this non-sense that you have 100+ skill games in game and you can only play like 15-20 of them because rest of it will require Mirror tier items in every slot to make it somewhat decent build.

You can go LastEpoch, you can be anything you want with trillions of dps with literally no effort. Because you dont want to put in effort
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so you want for devs to never change meta and items for 10+ years so everyone would play the same builds for 10+ years every single league? yeah....no you can go play those games bye for a reason PoE is still the most popular and best arpg while those other games you named are all dead


This is the problem that I am talking about the "meta". Why they cant just make skill gems to be on the similiar power level so players can freely choose what skill gems they want to play? Instead you have to read the latest patch notes and pick the skill gems that got buffed and ignore those that got nerfed unless you have infinite amount of currency both for crafting and trading. And also you said that those ARPGS are "dead" well jokes on you those ARPGS are meant to be played solo and there is not "live service" non-sense like with this game so I dont care if I will be the only person playing them I can enjoy those games anytime I want to without constantly checking if they released a patch that destroyed my build that I have put 100+ divines and 100+ hours into.
Last edited by maxes789#7131 on Dec 5, 2025, 5:33:49 AM
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You can go LastEpoch, you can be anything you want with trillions of dps with literally no effort. Because you dont want to put in effort



what are you talking about? I have put 100+ divines and 100+ hours into those builds but thanks to GGG those builds are useless now because of patches. I like the way the way the progression works in this game all I want is that players will have freedom to actually choose the skill gems they want to play and not being forced to play only certain skills because patch notes said so and other thing that I want is that those builds that you put a lot of currency into and a lot of hours they should work the same after another league is released and not just destroy the build with the patch.

I feel like I am the only person that has objective opinion on this game in this post because all of those replies are just ignoring the main message of this post anyways and just dishing out non-sense replies because I hurt your feelings that I dont like certain things about your favorite game.
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maxes789#7131 wrote:
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You can go LastEpoch, you can be anything you want with trillions of dps with literally no effort. Because you dont want to put in effort



what are you talking about? I have put 100+ divines and 100+ hours into those builds but thanks to GGG those builds are useless now because of patches. I like the way the way the progression works in this game all I want is that players will have freedom to actually choose the skill gems they want to play and not being forced to play only certain skills because patch notes said so and other thing that I want is that those builds that you put a lot of currency into and a lot of hours they should work the same after another league is released and not just destroy the build with the patch.

I feel like I am the only person that has objective opinion on this game in this post because all of those replies are just ignoring the main message of this post anyways and just dishing out non-sense replies because I hurt your feelings that I dont like certain things about your favorite game.



Every 3 months there's a new life - new league
Go try new stuff? Learn something new?

You can't have an objective opinion when you're playing in Standard with a build for months :-D
[Removed by Support] Imagine that you are architect and you put efford and time into planning out this building, you pay workers to make that building which is taking a lot of time efford and money. After two months some person comes around and tells you that you have to destroy that building because there are new desings for windows and doors and other things so you start over with the new idea you plan out the building and you pay for workers to build it and two months goes by and the same person tells you that you have to destroy this building again because he said so. Does it sound fun? I dont think so.
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maxes789#7131 wrote:
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You can go LastEpoch, you can be anything you want with trillions of dps with literally no effort. Because you dont want to put in effort



what are you talking about? I have put 100+ divines and 100+ hours into those builds but thanks to GGG those builds are useless now because of patches. I like the way the way the progression works in this game all I want is that players will have freedom to actually choose the skill gems they want to play and not being forced to play only certain skills because patch notes said so and other thing that I want is that those builds that you put a lot of currency into and a lot of hours they should work the same after another league is released and not just destroy the build with the patch.

I feel like I am the only person that has objective opinion on this game in this post because all of those replies are just ignoring the main message of this post anyways and just dishing out non-sense replies because I hurt your feelings that I dont like certain things about your favorite game.



Every 3 months there's a new life - new league
Go try new stuff? Learn something new?

You can't have an objective opinion when you're playing in Standard with a build for months :-D



Please can you explain why I cant have objective opinion? A person that is playing between 5-10 characters in a league and some of them I enjoy so much that I want to play even in standard and truly min.max those builds because I have most currency in standard but the build is broken the moment it goes into standard.
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maxes789#7131 wrote:
Please can you explain why I cant have objective opinion? A person that is playing between 5-10 characters in a league and some of them I enjoy so much that I want to play even in standard and truly min.max those builds because I have most currency in standard but the build is broken the moment it goes into standard.


Is this a real question? By definition opinions are subjective. It's influenced by who you are and what you experienced, whereas something objective is not influenced by personal feelings or opinions. For something to be objective, it must be a verifiable.

Example: "This pizza is delicious" is subjective, while "This pizza won an award" is objective. You can derive an opinion from an objective fact, like "This pizza won an award, so it must be delicious", but maybe it's a pineapple pizza and opinions go in wildly different directions.

So you may feel a certain way about GGG's balance changes, but please don't try to claim your opinions are objective facts
The opposite of knowledge is not illiteracy, but the illusion of knowledge.

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