Something is terribly wrong with Shaders since 3.27

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BaumisMagicalWorld#0673 wrote:

Such as? I have a top tier PC myself and no issues after shaders have been recompiled. It's people running new content that hasn't been compiled yet, paired with the wrong settings, then take it as terrible performance at face value.

Just because you don't have these performance issues, doesn't mean everyone doesn't. You just got lucky that's all. There are many people with PCs using an RTX 3070 and good processors that have these same problems, there are comments on multiple threads.

And PC parts are way too expensive in some parts of the world, because of currency exchange rates. You also have to pay a PC shop to build it for you,install windows for you etc.

The players shouldn't have to be some kind of IT expert that can disassemble and build their own PC, the game should just run normally instead of shaders being literally broken.


And guess what, every other game I play runs perfectly. Even newer ones from 2019 onwards, games on Unity or Unreal Engine 4. I run all those on 60 fps, no shader bs happening because they don't use that. Yet PoE is randomly bricked this 1 patch? Yeah its the game. Its not VRAM, its not CPU.

And I'm on a gtx 1050ti with 4 GB of VRAM and i5-9400f and 16 GB of RAM. This game ran perfectly fine at 60 fps since Harvest league when I got this PC, it only lags in blight which I don't do anyway.

It still runs at 60 fps, but the loading times are annoying and the shaders take literal minutes to load in every map. When my shader cache is already 10 GB in the nvidia folder, and the game's own shader folder got to 700 mb in appdata. Shaders are broken. It should not be loading stuff as if its the first time I'm seeing it, in a map I am doing for the 100th time.


It ain't anyone's PC lol

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Toforto#2372 wrote:

And PC parts are way too expensive in some parts of the world, because of currency exchange rates. You also have to pay a PC shop to build it for you,install windows for you etc.

And I'm on a gtx 1050ti with 4 GB of VRAM and i5-9400f and 16 GB of RAM. This game ran perfectly fine at 60 fps since Harvest league when I got this PC, it only lags in blight which I don't do anyway.

It ain't anyone's PC lol

Is it now? Here, from my local ebay equivalent (censored):



That's an RX 590 (8GB), a card literally more than twice as powerful, paired with 16GB RAM and a budget but capable i7 CPU, 40% faster than OP's and 30% faster than yours. The VRAM and RAM difference alone crushes both systems and shoots them out back.

Now, I am aware that we have easier access to hardware. That said, that's a whole-ass PC literally faster than any of the PCs mentioned so far, for a total of ~$232. Best part? It's been reduced by €50 already and been listed for weeks, as it's overpriced still and nobody wants to buy it, just like I said.

If people from India can manage to scrape together a more capable machine from junkyard parts, I can imagine someone who has access to PoE and proper internet can manage just fine. You are just not interested in putting in any of the work required.

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BaumisMagicalWorld#0673 wrote:

You are just not interested in putting in any of the work required.

No, unless someone just gifts me a free PC I ain't interested. The game should be optimized, because shaders are clearly broken atm

vulkan doesnt work needs fixed

Are we back to have strong opinion over other people's PC when the same strong opinions arent giving actual solutions only "just upgrade your pc lol". Either give people with issues a pc or just zip it.

I dont think they will fix this until 3.28 (maybe) I already gave up any sort of wait for this issue to be fixed soon

I had massive problems this league - at one point game was hard crashed every time I was loading from map to hidoeut or from hideout to league monastery thingy. Shaders always loading, lag spikes and sh**. Reinstalled the game couple of days ago - turns out local game file was 100gigs or so big (needs to be 50something), now the game is running normally. Hope it stays that way.

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Xystre#4581 wrote:

Either give people with issues a pc or just zip it.

Either get with the times or zip it. OP's CPU is literally a quad-core from 2014, and their GPU is a lowest tier budget card from 2016. Even a $40 GTX 970 - Edit: scratch that, same price nets you an RX 580, which is even faster - beats that thing with double VRAM and nearly double the performance. Here, check the relative performance chart and see for yourself. And you can get even better cards for barely more.

Most games these days prefer at least 6 core CPUs, which most are now anyway. Even manufacturers literally do not make them anymore above low budget tier. That's what that is. A Ryzen 5500 is a 6C/12T CPU for very low cost and high value (best value CPU as of 2025). I recently bought mine for my encoding machine for $73 brandnew (used would be less), tax and shipping included.

It's all excuses and excuses upon excuses. I was homeless once, and I lived in poverty for quite some time afterwards, so I know it's not that. We wouldn't be having this conversation otherwise. A PC is a novelty item. Expecting a now <$100 PC from a decade ago to offer unproblematic performance in 2025 is, quite frankly, idiotic. So, whatever other excuses you got going on, the game is fine. It's the potato PC that needs to get out of the gutter and upgrade a few things. Simple as. Doesn't even have to be expensive, like I've said before.

Not upgrading hardware from over a decade ago isn't a matter of "strong opinion", that's a basic intelligence check. The refusal to admit that the problem may not be the game is honestly just laughable at this point.

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BaumisMagicalWorld#0673 wrote:

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Xystre#4581 wrote:

Either give people with issues a pc or just zip it.

Either get with the times or zip it. OP's CPU is literally a quad-core from 2014, and their GPU is a lowest tier budget card from 2016. Even a $40 GTX 970 - Edit: scratch that, same price nets you an RX 580, which is even faster - beats that thing with double VRAM and nearly double the performance. Here, check the relative performance chart and see for yourself. And you can get even better cards for barely more.

Most games these days prefer at least 6 core CPUs, which most are now anyway. Even manufacturers literally do not make them anymore above low budget tier. That's what that is. A Ryzen 5500 is a 6C/12T CPU for very low cost and high value (best value CPU as of 2025). I recently bought mine for my encoding machine for $73 brandnew (used would be less), tax and shipping included.

It's all excuses and excuses upon excuses. I was homeless once, and I lived in poverty for quite some time afterwards, so I know it's not that. We wouldn't be having this conversation otherwise. A PC is a novelty item. Expecting a now <$100 PC from a decade ago to offer unproblematic performance in 2025 is, quite frankly, idiotic. So, whatever other excuses you got going on, the game is fine. It's the potato PC that needs to get out of the gutter and upgrade a few things. Simple as. Doesn't even have to be expensive, like I've said before.

Not upgrading hardware from over a decade ago isn't a matter of "strong opinion", that's a basic intelligence check. The refusal to admit that the problem may not be the game is honestly just laughable at this point.

It takes a special kind of arrogance to not even consider another person’s experience.Your Mom must love you at family dinner.

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BaumisMagicalWorld#0673 wrote:

Either get with the times or zip it. OP's CPU is literally a quad-core from 2014, and their GPU is a lowest tier budget card from 2016. Even a $40 GTX 970 - Edit: scratch that, same price nets you an RX 580, which is even faster - beats that thing with double VRAM and nearly double the performance. Here, check the relative performance chart and see for yourself. And you can get even better cards for barely more.

And what about the people with good PCs that have also commented on all these threads? Do they also need to buy the newest 4000$ video card and 1000$ CPUs?


"Just upgrade bro" is not a solution here, because the game's shaders are clearly broken. Its not affecting everyone, but it is affecting a lot of people. Not only that, but there are other threads about game crashes and so on on certain hardware. Its clear this patch broke a lot of stuff.


I live in a random-ahh EU country, I'm a NEET. And my PC was built in 2019 with the best parts that could be found here. The game ran perfectly fine 1 patch ago, its the game. If I'm gonna be getting a better PC, its gonna be by just getting it as a gift kek


Like not everyone just has infinite disposable income and access to PC parts all around the world. Exchange rates of currency are also a factor if you don't use the big ones like Euro or $ where you live. This makes the cost 2x or more for some people. And some parts are not even shipped to certain regions, so we just gotta use what we have.



Do you not think all of us would have gotten a PC with optimal powerful parts if we had the ability to already? And that wouldn't help anyway, even people with streamer PCs are having issues. Its just affecting random people with all kinds of setups.



Anyway Bump, hope they do some real optimization in 3.28 just like the CPU stuff they mentioned that they did for PoE 2.

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Toforto#2372 wrote:

And what about the people with good PCs that have also commented on all these threads? Do they also need to buy the newest 4000$ video card and 1000$ CPUs?

Why do you insist on making up these weird arguments? I have literally given you, at most, a low 3 digit number that can net you something that improves your overall gaming experience, yet you are out here talking about thousands of dollars. In all seriousness now, what the fuck are you talking about?

My patience with this nonsense is really running thin. There's no point in giving you a solution to the problem if you keep responding with nonsensical hyperbole. People with good PCs don't have this problem, or at the very least they don't even know where to start looking and/or attribute the wrong symptoms to the wrong cause.

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Toforto#2372 wrote:

"Just upgrade bro" is not a solution here, because the game's shaders are clearly broken.

It absolutely is. Driver support has ended for a range of video cards. That's your final cue to upgrade.

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Toforto#2372 wrote:

Its not affecting everyone, but it is affecting a lot of people. Not only that, but there are other threads about game crashes and so on on certain hardware. Its clear this patch broke a lot of stuff.

A lot according to who? The echochamber of threads where it's clear that people with not a single ounce of technical knowledge proclaim the issue is the game, not a potential Windows or driver issue? Are you even aware that Windows 11 that was forced on us has introduced so many new issues? Didn't think so.

I, too, have an ALT-TAB issue with the game that results in a driver crash. Does that automatically mean performance is garbage? No. Either it's an issue with an update to game code or something that could even be Windows update related, as driver rollbacks don't fix it. Let alone you don't even know what shaders are, yet you keep parroting what someone else said.

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Toforto#2372 wrote:

Do you not think all of us would have gotten a PC with optimal powerful parts if we had the ability to already?

You already answered that question yourself before, in case you need a reminder:

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BaumisMagicalWorld#0673 wrote:

You are just not interested in putting in any of the work required.

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Toforto#2372 wrote:

No, unless someone just gifts me a free PC I ain't interested. The game should be optimized, because shaders are clearly broken atm

Now it's other excuses to keep the argument going, even though you've already realized what the actual problem is. I even told you that inexpensive parts that can be purchased second hand already outperform your current setup by miles.

Honestly, I'm done with this discussion. I can give you a hundred other solutions, but you will give me the finger anyway as long as it involves any kind of effort from your side, be it financially or otherwise. Have a good one.