Something is terribly wrong with Shaders since 3.27

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BaumisMagicalWorld#0673 wrote:

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Deonix_#0855 wrote:

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jovack#1283 wrote:

This game is 12 years old now, and while they have certainly made upgrades to it, there's no excuse for performance like this.

I can run way "heavier" games on this pc with extremely fast loading times. It's wild that they allowed it to get to this state. POE1 should not have these crazy loading times.

Agree! I can run "Overwatch 2" 100-120+ fps, but somehow PoE1 doesn't want to work properly. DX11? Lags. Vulkan? Artifacts. DX 12? Destroys my SSD.

Overwatch 2 is made to run on potato PCs. Recommended specs are low-end i5 and i7, and GTX 1060/1650. Those are low budget tier components. Not remotely the same thing.

PoE supports up to 16 logical processors, aka. threads, and is very CPU heavy. A better CPU carries you much farther. It can actually fully utilize my 9800X3D. Even so, with the right build, it will still be bottlenecked by a 9800X3D in 4k. Ask me how I know.

Your PC is not only kind of ancient, it's also way below low budget tier. A GTX 1060 6GB, the current king of low budget tier on the used market, not accounting for the lack of driver support in the future, is twice as fast as your GPU. The ~€100 i5-12400F is almost 3x as fast as your current CPU. It's not hard to make a strong budget PC with second hand parts.

PoE is constantly evolving, and thus hardware requirements become more demanding. You can complain that your toaster PC isn't up to par and blame the game for it, or you can invest a little on the low end and get something more longer lasting. That is, assuming you can spare like $200 to spend on PC parts. As it stands, the GTX 10-series reached end of life support as of October 2025, but the 16-series, i.e. 1650/1660 Super, will continue to receive support. Windows 10 support will also cease with October 2026.

I'd say it's beyond time you upgraded your PC. You can't reasonably expect the devs to continue to develop for potato tier PCs. You can get a 1650 Super pretty cheap these days, though better alternatives exist, i.e. the Intel Arc series that is great value for money and fits right into your budget tier. Upgrading to Intel LGA 1700 socket and something like an i5-12400F should cost you around €100 in second hand parts (based on my local used market, but in the US parts are always cheaper). You can go Ryzen if you want to, but that CPU in particular is great value and Intel is less desired now, so prices have dropped. Plays well with PoE, too (I once owned one).

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zhihong0321#0501 wrote:

complely INVALID argument, and.... really not smart.

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BaumisMagicalWorld#0673 wrote:

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zhihong0321#0501 wrote:

complely INVALID argument, and.... really not smart.

How about you educate yourself on the topic first. I've been building my own PCs since 2012, mainly around PoE, and I browse various tech forums on the daily.

Shader spikes is normal when the game loads assets. They go away over time and reset with every new patch or when you change GPU drivers, lol. This is why you run the "wait for preload" command if you can't handle the issue. Refer to the above.

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Toforto#2372 wrote:

Then how do you explain all the people with top-tier PCs still having the same problems? Its not anyone's PC. Its the game that has bricked shaders.

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Toforto#2372 wrote:

Optimization is important, also don't just assume anyone in the world can order any PC part they desire. Depending on where you live and your country's currency that can be extremely expensive or straight-up impossible.

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Toforto#2372 wrote:

I'm personally waiting for the Steam Machine since its better than my PC and if its affordable and shipped worldwide I'm just gonna try to get that lmao, because why spend 2000-3000 on building a custom PC when I can just buy a little box that's basically a good gaming PC for way cheaper.