I don't think I can do this every 3 to 4 months., the campaign is just too long.

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Knott168#9154 wrote:
The campaign is fine, go play another game of you don't like it.


They don't want to play an ARPG but market simulator, and anything that is not market simulator they wanna skip.
HCSSF is the only way.
I just play the game on standard since release. I don't know why they have leagues, it's for invested players who lvl up 2 characters in 2 weeks then stop playing.
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Fae_Lyth#6750 wrote:
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Knott168#9154 wrote:
The campaign is fine, go play another game of you don't like it.


They don't want to play an ARPG but market simulator, and anything that is not market simulator they wanna skip.


I play SSF. Try again.
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Gery0724#5426 wrote:
I just play the game on standard since release. I don't know why they have leagues, it's for invested players who lvl up 2 characters in 2 weeks then stop playing.


Leagues have been part of POE for a decade. They are what keep players coming back to the game and buying cosmetics. Its part of the business model and people get excited at the start of a new league.

Dont know how excited they will be with a 200hr campaign to get through before the real game starts. And no, there is no way to make it more engaging. We can see that on 75% of the player base playing deadeye.
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Kraythax#2592 wrote:
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Gery0724#5426 wrote:
I just play the game on standard since release. I don't know why they have leagues, it's for invested players who lvl up 2 characters in 2 weeks then stop playing.


Leagues have been part of POE for a decade. They are what keep players coming back to the game and buying cosmetics. Its part of the business model and people get excited at the start of a new league.

Dont know how excited they will be with a 200hr campaign to get through before the real game starts. And no, there is no way to make it more engaging. We can see that on 75% of the player base playing deadeye.


A bot overexxaggerated here campaign is around 20-25 Hours. Deadeye is also only so good this league, because many other Ascendancies just suck.
“The bird of Hermes is my name, eating my wings to make me tame.”
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Fae_Lyth#6750 wrote:
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Knott168#9154 wrote:
The campaign is fine, go play another game of you don't like it.


They don't want to play an ARPG but market simulator, and anything that is not market simulator they wanna skip.


I could do maps all the live long day. It's the campaign thats awful.
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Alzucard#2422 wrote:

A bot overexxaggerated here campaign is around 20-25 Hours. Deadeye is also only so good this league, because many other Ascendancies just suck.


Says a guy playing deadeye. I hate to tell you this but the large number of "the campaign is good" people in this thread are either playing Deadye and having a very different experience from me or want your Deadeye HAMMER nerfed into the ground so you cant zoom. When you have to spend 15 seconds killing each white pack are you going to be so glib I wonder?
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I could do maps all the live long day. It's the campaign thats awful.


Maps are a different experience. You are at end game with gear and skill points allocated. you have built up enough skill points to make something like a build that has some cohesive structure to it. Rewards to build your gear are coming more often. You are working to get strong enough to take on pinnacles.

I have NOT understood why GGG is obsessing over a super long campaign. Break the campaign up into a series of short stories scattered throughout maps. The player experience would be 100x better.
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Kraythax#2592 wrote:
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I could do maps all the live long day. It's the campaign thats awful.


Maps are a different experience. You are at end game with gear and skill points allocated. you have built up enough skill points to make something like a build that has some cohesive structure to it. Rewards to build your gear are coming more often. You are working to get strong enough to take on pinnacles.

I have NOT understood why GGG is obsessing over a super long campaign. Break the campaign up into a series of short stories scattered throughout maps. The player experience would be 100x better.


20 hours if you play slow is not a "super long campaign".
Get over yourself.
HCSSF is the only way.
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Gery0724#5426 wrote:
I just play the game on standard since release. I don't know why they have leagues, it's for invested players who lvl up 2 characters in 2 weeks then stop playing.


The reason I like leagues is because I get to experience cool new stuff before it hits standard. I still play standard too, though (not in PoE 2 really, there's nothing there yet). The trick to not getting burnt out on chasing league economies is just that, quit chasing the FOMO of being up there with streamers.

If there's no one playing league, there probably isn't much more in standard. So it's not about the economy, right? It's about the FOMO of missing out on the trade deals and such. There's no more or less trade on standard, just different kinds. Personal playstyle and mindset is largely what matters.

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