Done after a week, the economy ended it for me (again)

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t0lkien#7048 wrote:

Everyone has essentially beaten the game by end of week 1.

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t0lkien#7048 wrote:

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RefleX666#0250 wrote:

I read that you primeraly complain about rmt, 10hr streamers and not enough valuable things that drop for you. That's like 90% of your topic. In the meantime others can earn a lot of currency and craft their BIS gear even as average Joe with a fulltime job. With normal play you can easily get your min-max gear.

I agree that the content is to easy but the fact you struggle with the economy is definitely a skill issue.

First, that's not quite what I've said. If you are determined to misunderstand, not sure I can fix that. However, you didn't craft BiS gear unless you spent upwards of 100 div for the mats and got lucky on your rolls. I'd suggest what you think is BiS is not even close. Do you have 60% movespeed boots? Is what have good enough? Sure, if you don't want to min/max and have something to chase. And if you don't, then what is there to play for unless you're making lots of different characters? Nothing wrong with that, but it doesn't interest me.

Fubgun who has arguably the best LA Deadeye character in the game and plays much more than you or I has said essentially the same thing - you can't make enough currency just mapping, you have to profit craft. And to profit craft you need significant currency (the amulet for example will cost you ~20-40 div). Again, you don't get that by playing as a normal person, not the way the game is.

If you're happy with your self-crafted gear, all power to you. I'm just pointing out how it is for a lot of us. The counter is PoE, where this isn't an issue, and where in fact the economy is one of the strongest parts of the game.

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t0lkien#7048 wrote:

It was a pretty fun week all told, but the game has topped out for me already. A lot of people will have a lot of things to say, good and bad, so I'll keep my feedback to just one.

For context, I played LA DeadEye specifically to avoid all the balance issues and unevenness, and for the most part that worked. However the same thing that ended the game for me in 0.1 ended it for me in 0.3 - the economy.

There is not enough good loot dropping to make endgame build progression possible, and the (I presume) RMT hijacking and manipulation of the economy makes chasing items just by playing beyond prohibitive if you are a not a streamer playing 10 hours a day (and even streamers say you can't get enough currency just by playing).

The absolute best thing about PoE for me is the ability to trade for items. It's game defining. It means I can play the game my way, and get to where I need to go even if it takes a bit longer. The worst thing about PoE 2 for me remains the inability to effectively do that.

I don't want to profit craft. Winning crafting rolls feels like avoiding a loss, not winning. It is a casino, and I've no interest in sitting in my hideout and rolling dice just to lose what little progression I did make to a bad roll. I want to actually play the game. If I can't do that with drops and trade, I just won't play long. It's not a sustainable path for the game anyway - there will be no currency for people to craft if everyone's burning through it crafting instead of generating it by playing. It's illogical.

0.3 is heading in the right direction. Unless the economy problem is solved long term, however, it may not matter - for me at least. PoE 2 will be a light hearted, clunky albeit beautiful week at the beginning of each league before moving on to the other temporary ARPG fixes, while its predecessor remains the main event.

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xpose#1651 wrote:

What's the difference in a 10-20 div build that instantly clears maps and bosses and a 100 div build that instantly clears maps and bosses. Min/Max in this game is pretty pointless once you reach the threshold of making all content obsolete.

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N0N3T#4965 wrote:

It was never easier then in this economy to get powerful quickly. If you cant do it then u being ignorant towards game mechanics.