Anti-Scam Feature for Trade Market

Oh yea I totally agree with this.

Years ago in Poe 1 i was scammed several times, since then i pay more attention to every trade or item i buy.
But im honest, since then it happend a few times that i didnt and was scammed again, but it was my mistake.

You made a mistake, just learn from that and try to avoid it next time.

Imagine you want to buy 50 ultimatums from 1 Player and he priced them for 5 ex and you just spam all 50 of them to buy and you loose 10-20 divs, because something happened like you described, then it was your mistake.
Just dont spam buy items from other players. I learned that many years ago on the hard way.

I dont think we need a helping hand for this in Poe. Maybe some reminder or something, but nothing what is too complicated to implement.
GGG has so much work to do at the moment.

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bennisen#4006 wrote:

Years ago in Poe 1 i was scammed several times, since then i pay more attention to every trade or item i buy.
But im honest, since then it happend a few times that i didnt and was scammed again, but it was my mistake.

You made a mistake, just learn from that and try to avoid it next time.

Imagine you want to buy 50 ultimatums from 1 Player and he priced them for 5 ex and you just spam all 50 of them to buy and you loose 10-20 divs, because something happened like you described, then it was your mistake.
Just dont spam buy items from other players. I learned that many years ago on the hard way.

I dont think we need a helping hand for this in Poe. Maybe some reminder or something, but nothing what is too complicated to implement.
GGG has so much work to do at the moment.

At the very least I'd like to be able to control what currency the market has access to. If I currently have no intention of buying items for divs I should be able to only use the currencies which I intend to use, which would also solve this problem.

Anyways, either GGG will do something about this, or they won't, again just putting this out there for consideration. I have no idea why certain people are getting all bent out of shape over it.

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rawdmon#8799 wrote:

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bennisen#4006 wrote:

Years ago in Poe 1 i was scammed several times, since then i pay more attention to every trade or item i buy.
But im honest, since then it happend a few times that i didnt and was scammed again, but it was my mistake.

You made a mistake, just learn from that and try to avoid it next time.

Imagine you want to buy 50 ultimatums from 1 Player and he priced them for 5 ex and you just spam all 50 of them to buy and you loose 10-20 divs, because something happened like you described, then it was your mistake.
Just dont spam buy items from other players. I learned that many years ago on the hard way.

I dont think we need a helping hand for this in Poe. Maybe some reminder or something, but nothing what is too complicated to implement.
GGG has so much work to do at the moment.

At the very least I'd like to be able to control what currency the market has access to. If I currently have no intention of buying items for divs I should be able to only use the currencies which I intend to use, which would also solve this problem.

Anyways, either GGG will do something about this, or they won't, again just putting this out there for consideration. I have no idea why certain people are getting all bent out of shape over it.

Maybe some currency lock or something. Or some warning when you buy something for currency that is very valuable.
That sounds not to complicated to implement. I would support something like this.

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bennisen#4006 wrote:

Maybe some currency lock or something. Or some warning when you buy something for currency that is very valuable.
That sounds not to complicated to implement. I would support something like this.

Exactly, that's really all I'm suggesting.

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rawdmon#8799 wrote:

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Artaniz#4006 wrote:

Lol these kinds of scams will never go away in PoE , got to pay better attention , right , wrong , irrelevant , people will always punish people that dont pay attention in market simulators.

I'm not disagreeing with this general sentiment, and I'm obviously going to be paying much better attention going forward. I'm just putting it out there that GGG might consider making some small changes to make this much less likely to happen. That's it.

I was theorizing about this type of scam existing in the first day that the new trade stuff was out, but I hadn't actually seen it start being done until a few days ago and hadn't gotten tripped up by it until yesterday.

I wish there was some way for me to control what currency the market has direct access to, instead of it having access to everything in my stash + inventory at all times.

Let me get this straight.

So you want to turn a YOU problem into an US problem by adding pop up warnings or an extra stash we have to put currency in just because YOU didn't read what you were buying?

Players like you is why we don't have a "delete all' button on read only stash tabs as GGG would be flooded by players deleting items they didn't intend.

The beauty of the new trade systen is you have all the time you need to properly check what you are buying..

I just watched Sirgog put out a long video about the new trade "scams" and EVERY single one if the "scams" can be avoided by simply using your eyes..

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Badebillet#1863 wrote:

So you want to turn a YOU problem into an US problem by adding pop up warnings or an extra stash we have to put currency in just because YOU didn't read what you were buying?

What exactly is the problem with that? This is a feedback forum and he told us about a problem he had and his wish how to fix it.
So here we can talk about it and this isnt the right place to point with fingers on someone and literally say that he is the problem.

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bennisen#4006 wrote:

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Badebillet#1863 wrote:

So you want to turn a YOU problem into an US problem by adding pop up warnings or an extra stash we have to put currency in just because YOU didn't read what you were buying?

What exactly is the problem with that? This is a feedback forum and he told us about a problem he had and his wish how to fix it.
So here we can talk about it and this isnt the right place to point with fingers on someone and literally say that he is the problem.

Exactly, a feedback forum, and i am giving mine.. More pop-ups or stashes or whatever will make it annoying and more time consuming for all the traders who DOES read what they buy.

This mentality of handholding just because you make an expensive bubu is what we called a learning opportunity before when people would acknowledge their own mistakes and simply learn from it, correct the behavior and move on.

It really is that simple

Yeah I agree we need protections because if they are doing this on accident its one thing but if its on purpose then its clear they are scamming.

Anyone here who defends not having protections against scams is probably a scammer which is pretty sad that the people care more about there pockets then the community.

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The_Gadget#2563 wrote:

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Did you even read my post? It was the EXACT SAME ITEM with a different price on it mixed in with a pack of all the exact same items. It was like 20 ultimatums all with 5 exalt prices except for like three of them that were strategically placed in the middle with 5 div prices. It was an intentional scam by the seller.

Yes. I read the whole post. EVERY one of those items had a PRICE posted with it. THAT IS NOT A SCAM in any way, shape, or form. That is YOU not using your skills of observation.

FFS. GGG can't be expected to put safeties in place because you aren't paying attention.

You were tired and not paying attention correct? Well maybe you should not be buying stuff when you are tired. Maybe you should realize that you are tired and pay extra attention if you CHOOSE to participate in the marketplace.

Below is a list of things that went wrong during your described transaction. Please tell us who is at fault for each of these:

Buying items while tired: buyer/seller/GGG
Not looking at the price before buying: buyer/seller/GGG

I get where you're coming from, but I think you're giving the dudes doing this a little too much leeway here. If I go to a grocer and there's a bin of apples, with a $.50 sticker on each, and I start loading them up, but the crafty storeowner put $100 surreptitiously on a couple of apples in the pile... fuck yes that's a scam. The seller knows darn well what they're doing, they're trying to TRICK you into paying way more for one item which is otherwise exactly the same as all the other ones in the pile.

At least with the apple scenario I have some recourse. When they ring me up I'm not going to just say oh wow $103 dollars when all I bought was six apples, yeah that sounds right". In the game you don't have that check.

I do, however, agree with others that there are higher priority things to develop right now. But .... seriously? These guys are absolutely trying to trick the buyer, ergo yes it is in fact a scam.