Fucking get your Campaign Length right

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inethil#2258 wrote:
Man, I hate this attitude. I LOVE the campaign and, even in POE 1, with its vastly well developed endgame, I struggle to remain interested once the story is over. Story is what makes a game great, in my opinion. Yes, endgame is vital, yes mechanics are vital, but without a gripping, emotionally rich story that resonates with me I'm not playing (or paying).

But I'm here for this. POE 1 owes a great deal of its success to the brilliancy of its story and the consistent high quality of its voice acting. That's always been true. Do you think people are still playing D2 for the mechanics alone? Nope, it's all of the above and the rich, uncompromisingly powerful vision of this fantasy world in which we strive against all odds.

Grinders show up later, then complain, as though their lack of imagination is the standard. Well, it's not.


Well that is fine and all. But you play the story every 4 Months. It wont be interesting if you play through it the 10th+ time.
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Alzucard#2422 wrote:
It wont be interesting if you play through it the 10th+ time.


Guy, how many times do you have to say the same thing and get the same response?

It's certainly not "interesting" to play the same Waystone 1,500 times but you still do it.

So why is that okay, but playing the campaign 10 times is unacceptable? Could it be that something being less interesting doesn't necessarily make it less fun?
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The_Song#4903 wrote:
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The_Song#4903 wrote:
I hope yall are aware that the majority of people who play PoE 1, and it will also be the majority of people who play PoE 2, play only the campaign each league, stop when they hit maps, then do it again next league.

For my part, just in this league of poe2, I've already made 3 characters, I'm not done making characters, and my most progressed is still in act 2.

For players who actually stay longer term, instead of just finishing the campaign and leaving, this is the kind of game where you're supposed to play multiple characters, multiple builds, not just one.
Loot a great weapon for a different build? Great, put in stash and go make that character.



Dude, you are delusional...People who actually play the game and put money in it, level 5-6 characters a league...


People who actually play the game and put money in it are a minorty.
The majority plays the campaign and leaves till next league, and do so without putting any money in.


That is straight up wrong. https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3728675

The statistics of 0.1 show that the mean player level is 75 and the median Player level is 89.

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Kerchunk#7797 wrote:
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Alzucard#2422 wrote:
It wont be interesting if you play through it the 10th+ time.


Guy, how many times do you have to say the same thing and get the same response?

It's certainly not "interesting" to play the same Waystone 1,500 times but you still do it.

So why is that okay, but playing the campaign 10 times is unacceptable?


Campaign will always be the same. Endgame will change and evolve.
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Kerchunk#7797 wrote:
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Alzucard#2422 wrote:
It wont be interesting if you play through it the 10th+ time.


Guy, how many times do you have to say the same thing and get the same response?

It's certainly not "interesting" to play the same Waystone 1,500 times but you still do it.

So why is that okay, but playing the campaign 10 times is unacceptable? Could it be that something being less interesting doesn't necessarily make it less fun?


Reading Comprehension here. I explain it to you. The comment is specifically talking about the story. Cause the story will definitely not be interesting anymore the 10th time you play through it. Knowing a story and how it continues makes said story simply not interesting anymore.

Furthermore Endgame is changing more than the Campaign does. Yolu have more Freedom to do things in the Endgame than you have in the Campaign. So you can decide what you wanna do at a point. In the Campaign you cant really do that.
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Alzucard#2422 wrote:

That is straight up wrong. https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3728675

The statistics of 0.1 show that the mean player level is 75 and the median Player level is 89.


You're misinterpreting those stats. Not your fault, because they worded them ambiguously. Substitute character or toon for player and you'll be right. Both you and the person you're responding to might be right -- most human players drop off quick, and the people who play lots of hours make several characters at level 80+.

I don't know what's really happening. Since GGG has finally hired a data analyst, hopefully they do.

I don't think GGG has ever posted when people are most likely to purchase supporter packs. From a business perspective, that's the most important metric.
SSF Rise of the Abyssal Ice Strike Invoker, high survivability and fast clear speed. Deprioritize armor and resistances; prioritize crafting a weapon and faster start of ES recharge. Build is shown at level 47, end of Act 3. It tore through Act 3 like butter.

https://poe.ninja/poe2/pob/ba84
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Alzucard#2422 wrote:

That is straight up wrong. https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3728675

The statistics of 0.1 show that the mean player level is 75 and the median Player level is 89.


You're misinterpreting those stats. Not your fault, because they worded them ambiguously. Substitute character or toon for player and you'll be right. Both you and the person you're responding to might be right -- most human players drop off quick, and the people who play lots of hours make several characters at level 80+.

I don't know what's really happening. Since GGG has finally hired a data analyst, hopefully they do.

I don't think GGG has ever posted when people are most likely to purchase supporter packs. From a business perspective, that's the most important metric.


It says Player Level so i assume they did it per account and not per character. I could be wrong tho
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Campaign will always be the same. Endgame will change and evolve.


Hey real quick dude that's absolutely insanely ridiculously wrong and inaccurate.
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Kerchunk#7797 wrote:
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Campaign will always be the same. Endgame will change and evolve.


Hey real quick dude that's absolutely insanely ridiculously wrong and inaccurate.


Okay and how does the Campaign evolve? Because i dont see it evolving at all.
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Alzucard#2422 wrote:
Okay and how does the Campaign evolve? Because i dont see it evolving at all.


Dude what are you talking about? What are you actually literally f'ing talking about?

0.3 added an entire act to the Campaign. I don't even understand how to talk to you at this point.

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