Fucking get your Campaign Length right

Meanwhile, Grim Dawn noticed what was going on and made the campaign entirely optional. Imagine that.
Campaign is the best part of the game. I'll rather do campaign over and over again until I hit 100 than running the same waystones..
By the looks of it, when the campaign is finished, 50% of it will basically be "maps with dialog lines". Like, have you seen Act ? It's completely choose your own path. I doubt 5 and 6 will be more structured than that. It's just maps without the waystone restriction so that you can level up for a while and get more litmus tests.

"Game begins with Endgame" is just not true with this game. Maybe you could arge it begins with Act4, but Acts1 to 3 are fast to do specially on 0.3.0
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Alzucard#2422 wrote:
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Cool tantrum man, but it's perfect and endgame is more of the same thing.
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Alzucard#2422 wrote:
The Endgame is the start of the actual game.

It's your mentality problem and you're massively wrong, the game starts from act 1. If you hate this design, you can play Diablo 4.


The actual game starts in maps. Its always been like that, POE1 or POE2. Thats why people rush through the Campaign. They wanna get to the actual game. The Campaign is the Obstacle you have to get through. I would even say nobody palys the game for the campaign long term. If you come back every league the Campaign doesnt interest you.


This is NOT POE1. And the developers already said their mentality is that the campaign IS PART OF THE GAME !

For me in fact it is ALL the game...
The bosses are cool shit I give them that. but WHY IS EVERY ZONE THIS HUGE?
Cut the size in half, balance EXP gain and it feels so much better.
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It's your mentality problem and you're massively wrong, the game starts from act 1. If you hate this design, you can play Diablo 4.

LOL, no. You are the problem, not him.

This guy is absolutely right. The distribution of players completing the campaign in POE2 is MUCH wider than POE1. I wasn't a speedrunner by any sense, but I could put together a build pretty easily in POE1 and complete the campaign in ~6 hours. It wasn't very difficult for me to do that.

In contrast, I can't complete the POE2 campaign in under like 15-20 hours. That's not acceptable for an above average player in a game that requires you to start from Act 1 every single season. And we don't even have all 6 acts yet.

POE2 is either going to have to become a game that doesn't require players to level a new character each league (not a good idea), or it's going to have to find ways to reduce the average time to complete the campaign for the "shorth" player average (the shorth the is the middle 50%, taking out the top and bottom 25%).


I'm the problem and developers don't know what they're doing? Or maybe game wasn't made specifically for you? Man, there is a reason why this game is different - it targets different audience, get it?

Do you try to force people and things around you to fit you? Or maybe you let them be what they were destined to be and move on? You just presented your generic wishlist that doesn't fit with the game vision. It doesn't try to be modern for a reason, because there is long forgotten audience that wants something different.

You come here throwing around your so-called revelations, yet you don't understand anything about this title.
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Cool tantrum man, but it's perfect and endgame is more of the same thing.
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Alzucard#2422 wrote:
The Endgame is the start of the actual game.

It's your mentality problem and you're massively wrong, the game starts from act 1. If you hate this design, you can play Diablo 4.


Okay this is a wild statement. The game is an ARPG not some single player game where you play through a story once lol
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Dmo90#6022 wrote:
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Cool tantrum man, but it's perfect and endgame is more of the same thing.
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Alzucard#2422 wrote:
The Endgame is the start of the actual game.

It's your mentality problem and you're massively wrong, the game starts from act 1. If you hate this design, you can play Diablo 4.


Okay this is a wild statement. The game is an ARPG not some single player game where you play through a story once lol


Funny because Diablo that created the genre was exaclty that a game wher eyou played trough a story.
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Alzucard#2422 wrote:
The Endgame is the start of the actual game.

Show me the law of video game design that states this.
The game starts at level1, and doesn't have a 20 hr forced tutorial like POE1. This is a massive upgrade.

"The game starts at end game" is terrible MMO-brained design that needs stop.
The campaign is the most fun part of the game and clearly what they put most effort in. I would find it really cool if we could replay the campaign at a higher difficulty level after finishing it, something like Diablo 2 did with its nightmare and hell mode. All the bosses could get some new mechanics, to make the rerun more interesting and challenging.
The endgame could become more fun, once they add significantly more endgame content and make it more challenging, so I experience something significantly harder than the campaign experience instead of effortless loot farming.
Last edited by Meril#8494 on Sep 1, 2025, 12:34:52 PM

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