Very stupid Decision to kill Frost blade of katabasis

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CAPSLOCK_ON#7907 wrote:

why are buffs never as impactful as nerfs? this is some bullshit honestly they cripple skills and only give weaker skills a little buff

Are you actually being serious with this?

Buffs have consistently been more impactful than nerfs over time. If that weren’t true, we’d still be treating 2kk DPS as high end endgame performance.
Now? That’s the kind of damage you hit with a naked character fresh out of campaign, just from grabbing a few passives. Most builds hit 10–200x that now with less investment thanks to years of buffs and steady power creep.

Nerfs? They only ever hit the most broken outliers, because if you don’t touch those, everyone just flocks to the same dirt cheap low cost, brain-off meta builds for the 10th league in a row, then complains that the game feels stale or “dead” after a week. It’s not rocket science.

And no, the buffs aren’t useless. They may not be massive spotlight reworks, but these smaller, wide-reaching changes boost whole archetypes and bring underused mechanics into relevance. That kind of flexibility has way more long-term value than slapping another +40% on one forgotten skill.

Personally, I’m looking forward to the new caster performance that’ll finally challenge Ice Nova for top-tier spots. It’d be refreshing to not see the same skill dominate endgame mapping on a dirt cheap budget, while everything else needs heavy investment to keep up. Same goes for all the other systemic changes, there’s now more room to breathe, experiment, and enjoy off meta even more.

You’re not mad because buffs are “weak”, you’re mad because the free-ride options got a small speed bump and now require something different instead of the same low investment builds we’ve watched carry most players the past few leagues.

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Phrazz#3529 wrote:

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CAPSLOCK_ON#7907 wrote:

this is a single player pve game there's no such thing as OP because your gameplay has no impact on others

What the hell are you on about? Of course there is such a thing about "OP" in a game all about progression and choices. This has to be one of the most narrow posts I've ever seen.

Let me ask you a question: If a skill got introduced today, that let you do 100 million DPS from level 1, you wouldn't consider that OP? And if you DO consider that OP, you're admitting to the fact that there should be a line drawn somewhere as to what is OP and what is not. And I'm totally OK with GGG drawing that line and not you, me or the players.

If a skill/build is WAY MORE powerful/accessible than 95% of other options, it is OP. We're not talking PvP OP here, where talking OP in terms of diversity, choices and opportunities. And it's MUCH easier to balance the outliers than all 200 of the other skills.

I'm not saying Katabasis is one of those skills as I haven't played it, but the premise of "there's so such thing as OP in a PvE game" is just... Wrong.

if you gotta resort to extreme hyperbole you've got no argument and just proves me right that you people choose to play bad builds on purpose and can't stand seeing others having fun and just want everything to feel awful

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CAPSLOCK_ON#7907 wrote:

if you gotta resort to extreme hyperbole you've got no argument and just proves me right that you people choose to play back builds on purpose and can't stand seeing others having fun and just want everything to feel awful

We play what we want to play - and manage quite fine. You go for the path of least resistance and whine when it's "normalized".

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Baharoth15#0429 wrote:

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Aynix#7757 wrote:

Guess GGG seen this video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ryytmT__-AI

Did you even look at the POB?

The multi mirror version of it has a whooping 400k dot damage from the skill + cold snap. It's literally just a plain strike skill with 400 damage effectiveness you see there. The dot is irrelevant. FB, LS, LSoA, WS and just about any other strike skill usable with claws would perform similarly.

Besides, <100 mio dps on a multi mirror build isn't exactly impressive nowadays, never mind something that deserves cutting a gems damage almost in half.

And who said its DOT build? Skill was pretty busted.

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CAPSLOCK_ON#7907 wrote:

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this is a single player pve game there's no such thing as OP because your gameplay has no impact on others since you're not playing vs any one if a few skills are more fun than others instead of making them bad ggg should make the others fun too this balancing like it's league of legends where they'll cripple what ever is popular makes me sick in a pve single player game it's stupid and this kind of balancing was killing another for fun game like hell divers

No, its not single player game, and you DO compete with others. Game is not balanced around SSF and never will. Game is balanced around TRADE league.

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Phrazz#3529 wrote:

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CAPSLOCK_ON#7907 wrote:

if you gotta resort to extreme hyperbole you've got no argument and just proves me right that you people choose to play back builds on purpose and can't stand seeing others having fun and just want everything to feel awful

We play what we want to play - and manage quite fine. You go for the path of least resistance and whine when it's "normalized".

some of these nerfs aren't normaliz8ng anything but straight up deleting the skills

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CAPSLOCK_ON#7907 wrote:

some of these nerfs aren't normaliz8ng anything but straight up deleting the skills

Luckily, we have a plethora of viable skills.

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CAPSLOCK_ON#7907 wrote:

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Phrazz#3529 wrote:

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CAPSLOCK_ON#7907 wrote:

if you gotta resort to extreme hyperbole you've got no argument and just proves me right that you people choose to play back builds on purpose and can't stand seeing others having fun and just want everything to feel awful

We play what we want to play - and manage quite fine. You go for the path of least resistance and whine when it's "normalized".

some of these nerfs aren't normaliz8ng anything but straight up deleting the skills

Same as it ever was.

FB had its day.

There are some ascendency changes that will make some skills a freakshow

To a degree they have to nerf them enough that the community arbitrarily becomes convinced they are "dead" or they don't shift the meta which is clearly their goal.

LS for example got feathered rather than butchered and I suspect we'll see it with heavy use yet again in the exact same form as prior.

Katabasis should never have had the damage effectiveness it had considering the purpose of the gem, they shoulda buffed the DoT portion though as its real funky to scale and is quite limiting.

I think it will be fine.

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BaumisMagicalWorld#0673 wrote:

I think it will be fine.

Not even 300 bilion DPS? Literally unplayable