Very stupid Decision to kill Frost blade of katabasis

You are wrong. But you aren't listening so i won't try any further to convince you. How about you use that skill to make 40/40 next league and make some videos of it? Seeing you try tackle ubers and t17 with that should be at least somewhat amusing. Put your money where your mouth is.

How about I dont? You already proved multiple times taht you are unable to play this game unless you play the most broken skills currently available in the game. You complaining about FBoK nerf just proves the nerf was needed.

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Baharoth15#0429 wrote:

Sorry Phrazz but if you are seriously comparing the difference...

I was only comparing the principle.

It's WAY easier to not think "why would I?" and play what you want in a balanced game where they regularly balance/nerf the outliers. That's (one of the reasons) why it's so important to nerf certain skills once in a while, so that the "why would I?"-feeling isn't getting rid of exploring and creating a new build and a new experience.

And as I said before, which you chose to ignore, is that they missed the mark on this one. Guess that sentence didn't fit your narrative.

The best thing is, I dont need to do anything to prove him wrong. I can just wait for the league to start and people who will still play this skill and make builds for it will appear naturally. Some of people will still build it old way and suck the damage nerf (the skill had enough damage that you can do that), some people will try to build it as hybrid, some people will focus just on DoT and play it like other cold DoTs builds. Because the skill still will be enough to do everything in the game.

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Phrazz#3529 wrote:

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Baharoth15#0429 wrote:

Sorry Phrazz but if you are seriously comparing the difference...

I was only comparing the principle.

It's WAY easier to not think "why would I?" and play what you want in a balanced game where they regularly balance/nerf the outliers. That's (one of the reasons) why it's so important to nerf certain skills once in a while, so that the "why would I?"-feeling isn't getting rid of exploring and creating a new build and a new experience.

And as I said before, which you chose to ignore, is that they missed the mark on this one. Guess that sentence didn't fit your narrative.

I don't even disagree with your principle. We just have very different perceptions when it comes to what an outlier looks like. To me, new FBoK is the outlier, being so much worse than pretty much anything else. LS on the other hand... well let's not go there again. If you agree that this change missed the mark then we are in agreement, all the better.

@Aynix I've mentioned this before but looks like you've already forgotten. 2 out of my 3 builds this league including my league starter use off meta skills. Meanwhile you are playing a freaking strength stacker. Can't get more OP and meta than that. You calling people out on playing meta stuff is the height of hippocrisy. Just stop.

He isn't going to be wrong :p someone necro this one in 2 months but gut feeling is its DoA, i've made a PoB i'm pretty happy with for it but its sufficiently expensive that it'll be a later character and by then I suspect a new skillgem will have baited me into playing something else bad instead.

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Baharoth15#0429 wrote:

@Aynix I've mentioned this before but looks like you've already forgotten. 2 out of my 3 builds this league including my league starter use off meta skills. Meanwhile you are playing a freaking strength stacker. Can't get more OP and meta than that. You calling people out on playing meta stuff is the height of hippocrisy. Just stop.

LMAO calling out someone for using proper way to scale damage.[Removed by Support] What next? You will try to call out someone because he used melee weapon on a melee build? Because everyone does that so its clearly a meta?
I had enough money for it so why wouldnt I gear up my Lacerate properly?

Lets see those "offmeta skills" of yours
Lightning Strike, Molten Strike of Zenith, Frost Blades. All three of those were nerfed.
Only one that wasnt nerfed was Conc Path. Good job in finding this skill, I would never expect you to touch skill that doesnt have bilion DPS on 10 div budget.
But since you want to be so nitpicky about how I built my character - you played Charge Stacker, which is just as OP as Str Stacker.

People forget that this is an atlas expansion as well as a new league and I'm sure with the new crafting and other mechanics there will be things to mitigate the nerfs whether it's a new base and enchant, a rune graph pattern, idk. Something always compensates for the nerfs if you stick around long enough.

I really really hate how ggg handles nerf and buffs. They never make it right. They either kill the build or make something too op...

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eternalJOURNEYofTHEloser#5873 wrote:

I really really hate how ggg handles nerf and buffs. They never make it right. They either kill the build or make something too op...

While I agree that their nerfs and buffs often miss their marks, it's kind of hard to really hold it against them. In a game with so many moving parts, so many multipliers, so many different ways to build, scale and execute, it's more or less impossible to "get it right" without substantial testing.

I've been mad at their approach to balance before. Now, I just enter every new league with a clean slate, and don't think about what I did last league at all. Why would I care about them nerfing a skill I played last league? Especially when that league lasted for a year with 3487 different events, giving me more than enough time to do everything I wanted to do with that skill?

If people just stopped locking their mindset to one skill, they would actually realize that melee is in a pretty good spot these days, and there's plenty of good skills out there - and plenty of ways to scale them.