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XP loss should stay as it is. All you babies cry because you cant accept that your glass cannon builds are not ready to grind the last 5 levels.
Glass cannon builds and grinds should not be in any game.
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Posted bykazajhodo#6457on May 14, 2025, 5:25:33 PM
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I did a follow up edit to include the reviewer names, because of course you would deny the reality.
Idk on my steam the only one of those that shows up in the first 40 is the first one. But I will take your word for it that it for some reason does on your screen.
Ok so you found 4 steam reviews where someone among other things mentioned exp loss.
Now scroll down and press "Browse all 167 433 reviews"
Filter by negative only. Scroll down as many pages as you would like, press CTRL+F and type in whichever combination of exp loss, exp penalty, death penalty, etc is most favorable to you. And then let me know how many results you get vs how many reviews you have open.
Also if this is the thing everyone is complaining about then why is this never adressed by the devs? Why in the multitudes of interviews that content creators have with the devs have this never been asked? Even tho they get a majority of their questions from the community and / or their viewers?
Have you tried searching "XP" instead of "exp"?
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Posted bySpankyKong#9805on May 14, 2025, 5:26:26 PM
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Glass cannon builds and grinds should not be in any game.
Then games made by Grinding Gear Games may not be to your taste
"Beidat honored the pact, though Mancy wouldn't take off Doryani’s prototype."
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Posted byDirefell#7544on May 14, 2025, 5:27:41 PM
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+1 with a few caveats
- If monsters scaled their level up to the 90s, or higher tier maps have a significant XP boost, I could deal with it since it doesn't mean losing hours of time.
- If XP can be recovered on corpse I could deal with it.
- If I only lost the XP from the current map, I could deal with it.
It's not a bad idea in theory, just the way it's currently implemented and balanced is horrible and makes me not want to keep playing at all
Agree on all this except the exp recovered on corpse.
I don't think anyone minds losing exp, if they can gain it back just as fast. The scaling/grind is absolutely a major issue.
Grind should not exist, its a symptom of a problem. Boredom.
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Posted bykazajhodo#6457on May 14, 2025, 5:29:43 PM
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Have you tried searching "XP" instead of "exp"?
Yes like I said ive tried several different combinations.
And ive scrolled so far down that the slider on the right side of my steam is so small its invisible and yet the most I can get is 5 yellow lines.
I asked you to try it and let me know if you dont get the same or similar result. The overwhelming majority of reviews have no mention of xp loss.
I can do a screen recording and show you if you would like.
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Posted byNyon#6673on May 14, 2025, 5:32:33 PM
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Basically OP is just gathering angry people that can't use omens of amelioration.
Why do those omens exist?
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Posted bykazajhodo#6457on May 14, 2025, 5:33:04 PM
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Works either way d2 forced it harder than poe , that being said if the game is harder do we really need it.if the grind is longer...
Unless you have more atlas tiers more ways to juice level in the pipeline running towers for xp with xp works but it is still a chug and the exp penalty is helping player retention. Even for EA ... but EA is full release so..
The xp penalty is not helping player retention. I'm not even sure how I would start to argue that point.
Xp loss is easily the most frustrating thing in this game. However, it is influenced by everything else in the game. This is why its gathering so much hate- its a symptom of other frustration. It also magnifies very easily with bad/inexperienced players.
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Posted bykazajhodo#6457on May 14, 2025, 5:37:21 PM
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XP loss on death is a great feature and it will obviously stay in the game. It makes leveling up towards the upper levels have stakes. It's an inherent part of a proper ARPG and incentivizes building defensives.
As usual the majority of new players here want everything handed to them with 0 effort and 0 friction.
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+1
This is a mechanic best left to the Hardcore leagues.
I don't think you fully realize what Hardcore is. Last edited by MyzPoE#4175 on May 14, 2025, 5:42:39 PM
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Posted byMyzPoE#4175on May 14, 2025, 5:37:47 PM
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Basically OP is just gathering angry people that can't use omens of amelioration.
Why do those omens exist?
Why do flasks exist?
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Posted byNyon#6673on May 14, 2025, 5:42:25 PM
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