A Simple Poll - Exp Loss on Death

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Echothesis#7320 wrote:

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bloomhead#3858 wrote:

Yet again, twisting and turning the arguments as you like.

If you were actually serious with that player problem point, fine, here goes...

Of course there exist a portion of players who do not pay attention to challenges provided by the game (writing this I understand the participation trophy guy above, lol). This is true for every game, even nowhere near soulslike. Thus it provides a good latch point for a white knight to pretend everyone who struggles with reaching level 100 is a fool.

Only problem is, any 3rd party poe ladder website shows level 100 is way less common than your theory would explain. Once, I've reached level 100 in poe1 with a glass cannon character which didn't even have the cannon/dps by poe1 standards. And without 5way service too. It was interesting experience. And problem is way beyond "noob-only". Looking forward to see your parade of lvl 100 character in your newly-unhidden profile.

Where are the poe2 stats on the profile page on this website shown again? Yeah, this alone make me not even consider answering the rest.

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Skollvaldr#5851 wrote:

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qQbonmjtAZ#7824 wrote:

You're simply wrong depending where on the tree you start. On the left side of the tree you are almost forced to go right to get ea if you want good defense at late endgame. An extra 5-10 points can add a lot of flexibility.

No.

Play Merc then get back to me

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bloomhead#3858 wrote:

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Echothesis#7320 wrote:

Also check out this thread, https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3787218, fresh batch of lost exp from thin air:) That option should've been disabled by default.

Rule 1 of playing an online game: Never play on patch day.

Thanks for proving yet again that it's a player problem: people not reading patchnotes (after asking SO MANY TIMES for them) not understanding what's happening, then dying.

I was in a head on accident because the other guy fell asleep at the wheel. I guess it was my fault for not waiting until rush hour traffic was over

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Rule 1 of playing an online game: Never play on patch day.

What is this utter nonsense people spout in here?

"It is your fault the company didn't deploy their patch correctly".

Absolute next-level cringeposting.

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qQbonmjtAZ#7824 wrote:

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Skollvaldr#5851 wrote:

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qQbonmjtAZ#7824 wrote:

You're simply wrong depending where on the tree you start. On the left side of the tree you are almost forced to go right to get ea if you want good defense at late endgame. An extra 5-10 points can add a lot of flexibility.

No.

Play Merc then get back to me

Merc doesn't even start on the left side of the tree. It literally starts in the middle.

Not to mention that about a third of nodes or so are still missing from the left side, which will be added as classes will be released there.

FFS, just stop making up nonsense that you can't back up, please. You have no valid argument, never will.

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qQbonmjtAZ#7824 wrote:

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bloomhead#3858 wrote:

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Echothesis#7320 wrote:

Also check out this thread, https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3787218, fresh batch of lost exp from thin air:) That option should've been disabled by default.

Rule 1 of playing an online game: Never play on patch day.

Thanks for proving yet again that it's a player problem: people not reading patchnotes (after asking SO MANY TIMES for them) not understanding what's happening, then dying.

I was in a head on accident because the other guy fell asleep at the wheel. I guess it was my fault for not waiting until rush hour traffic was over

Since you clearly have no idea how uttery complex software-development is, here it is again: Never play on patch day. Remember that. True for every service game.

Too bad you're, yet again, mixing completely different things together. Good job.

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Mamillian#8657 wrote:

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Rule 1 of playing an online game: Never play on patch day.

What is this utter nonsense people spout in here?

"It is your fault the company didn't deploy their patch correctly".

Absolute next-level cringeposting.

Seems like this is your first service game. Enjoy making that experience on every big patch, on every service game for the rest of your life. Just remember to come back to this forum and re-read it.

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bloomhead#3858 wrote:

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Echothesis#7320 wrote:

If you were actually serious with that player problem point, fine, here goes...

Of course there exist a portion of players who do not pay attention to challenges provided by the game (writing this I understand the participation trophy guy above, lol). This is true for every game, even nowhere near soulslike. Thus it provides a good latch point for a white knight to pretend everyone who struggles with reaching level 100 is a fool.

Only problem is, any 3rd party poe ladder website shows level 100 is way less common than your theory would explain. Once, I've reached level 100 in poe1 with a glass cannon character which didn't even have the cannon/dps by poe1 standards. And without 5way service too. It was interesting experience. And problem is way beyond "noob-only". Looking forward to see your parade of lvl 100 character in your newly-unhidden profile.

Where are the poe2 stats on the profile page on this website shown again? Yeah, this alone make me not even consider answering the rest.

You're raking quite a count of detailed arguments you refuse to answer, here, catch another one:

Website is https://poe2.ninja/builds/dawn?min-level=100

At the moment of this post, 73809 Dawn of the Hunt characters linked, 52 of them level 100. Would you like to tell the rest 73757 that they all actually had "player problem"?:) Mind you, this site is for top dps builds, not a noob collection.

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Echothesis#7320 wrote:

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bloomhead#3858 wrote:

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Echothesis#7320 wrote:

If you were actually serious with that player problem point, fine, here goes...

Of course there exist a portion of players who do not pay attention to challenges provided by the game (writing this I understand the participation trophy guy above, lol). This is true for every game, even nowhere near soulslike. Thus it provides a good latch point for a white knight to pretend everyone who struggles with reaching level 100 is a fool.

Only problem is, any 3rd party poe ladder website shows level 100 is way less common than your theory would explain. Once, I've reached level 100 in poe1 with a glass cannon character which didn't even have the cannon/dps by poe1 standards. And without 5way service too. It was interesting experience. And problem is way beyond "noob-only". Looking forward to see your parade of lvl 100 character in your newly-unhidden profile.

Where are the poe2 stats on the profile page on this website shown again? Yeah, this alone make me not even consider answering the rest.

You're raking quite a count of detailed arguments you refuse to answer, here, catch another one:

Website is https://poe2.ninja/builds/dawn?min-level=100

At the moment of this post, 73809 Dawn of the Hunt characters linked, 52 of them level 100. Would you like to tell the rest 73757 that they all actually had "player problem"?:) Mind you, this site is for top dps builds, not a noob collection.

What? If you're aiming for 100, then yes, you're either dying to a bug/lag/technical problem, or not paying attention.

You're literally providing arguments against yourself here.

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bloomhead#3858 wrote:

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Echothesis#7320 wrote:

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bloomhead#3858 wrote:

Where are the poe2 stats on the profile page on this website shown again? Yeah, this alone make me not even consider answering the rest.

You're raking quite a count of detailed arguments you refuse to answer, here, catch another one:

Website is https://poe2.ninja/builds/dawn?min-level=100

At the moment of this post, 73809 Dawn of the Hunt characters linked, 52 of them level 100. Would you like to tell the rest 73757 that they all actually had "player problem"?:) Mind you, this site is for top dps builds, not a noob collection.

What? If you're aiming for 100, then yes, you're either dying to a bug/lag/technical problem, or not paying attention.

You're literally providing arguments against yourself here.

Ahah, okay, we'll chew it even more for you:
lvl 95: 5940 characters
lvl 96: 6305
lvl 97: 2565
lvl 98: 637
lvl 99: 122
lvl 100: 52

total lvl 95+: 15621. This leaves 58188 waiting to get acquainted with your breakthrough player problem theory.

Now, keep in mind that poe2 ninja doesn't collect character data passively yet, so total amount of characters is likely higher. While players who do use PoB2 and link themselves to ninja are the most dedicated part of the audience, aimed to grind endgame and get results. If they didn't level up higher, it wasn't for total lack of trying.

Retour: exp penalty as it was made in poe1 and poe2 is overly punishing, and softcore players are bound to repeat it due to bugs and obscure mechanics of poe combat. GGG didn't leave it without change for so long out of care for their players. Any other implementation, from global difficulty levels to reworking penalty into survival bonus would've been better than this.