Time to Call Chris Back in
" I think it's an ignorant comment. So, GGG under Chris' leadership listened to feedback. Why are we going to play that as a negative? Sure, he originally set out to create a different game than what PoE is today, but made some compromises along the way and listened to the consumer of his product on some occasions. Yeah, really negative... Anyhow, at least he HAD a vision. At least he (seemed) to care about the game. At least PoE1 followed some sort of pattern and schedule. And that's the red line here; when people talk about "wanting Chris back", no matter how serious they are, I think they are more talking about GGG as a whole and its structure, schedule and transparency rather than his "vision". Where are we today without his leadership? We have NO cluse when the next PoE2 patch is coming. We have NO clue (really) when the next PoE1 league is coming. We have gone from 3-4 months leagues to 10+ months with no real talk about the future, because the current leadership don't really answer questions about PoE1. I don't care if you like PoE1 or PoE2 better, but the current situation is objectively the most difficult time to be a PoE fan because we don't really know shit, all things considered. And it's ALL about leadership, structure, planning and transparency. Is that solely because of Chris leaving? Probably not, but I can easily understand that people are longing back to the times he was here. Bring me some coffee and I'll bring you a smile. Last edited by Phrazz#3529 on May 21, 2025, 12:01:11 PM
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Hi, I'm Chris Wilson from Grinding Gear Games
i like big crits and i cannot lie, you otha brothas cant denyyy....
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" thats a lot of words just to try and devalue the truth behind the comment. it is what it is. simple as that. you may not like the truth, but it simply is the truth. you mention how when people talk about chris its not actually about chris. then why are you not highlighting that fact instead? you do that so you can take a dunk on others, implying theyre ignorant. you can make your point without pulling others down. but it seems that you feel its more important to call others ignorant. saying chris at least had a vision. what does that even relate to the reply being ignorant? you're just shitting out words. how is the comment ignorant? you've said literally nothing to convince me how the comment is ignorant. however, if anything your comment does let me realize how much priority it is to you to just dunk on others. [Removed by Support]
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Chris was a very passionate and competent project manager. Obviously GGG and POE developments from scratch are testament to that, as well as his GDC talk, among other things.
Jonathan is... well I don't know what he is. I'm concerned because the last thing we saw with Ziz was closer to the spoiled brat than anything (I know he aknowledged and apologized, but it doesn't cut it. You can't afford that behaviour when you lead hundred people). The "message to PoE1 player" was painful to watch, if I go to my project meeting, saying to my customer "sorry, I thought I could, be I couldn't, no idea when now", I would face VERY painful consequences. Mistakes and missed deadlines happen, but you have to be proactive and come with a plan (and a solid one). I hope he will/has learned or delegated, because I have no doubt he is passionate, that's at least great value. If not, the future may not be so bright... |
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" Thats a lot of words to just say "I dont like you dont agree with my comment" over and over. People will disagree with you. Thats normal. Last edited by Aynix#7757 on May 22, 2025, 4:26:32 AM
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Aaaah, youth... you give them four paragraphs with two sentences each and it's already "too many words." I used to think this was just a Latam problem (My experience in the Spanish chat...), one paragraph with three sentences and they go "too much text" (you can't even write long messages in chats because that's the response you get 😅), but I see the problem is spreading 🤣
Last edited by Davoker#7948 on May 22, 2025, 5:19:05 AM
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" No, I didn't call anyone ignorant - I called your post ignorant. That's two different things, one is debating the person, the other is debating the case. You should probably try that sometimes. "You, you, you...". I called your post ignorant because it's shallow and paints everything as black or white. You even write it here: "Simple as that". It isn't that simple. But you will of course hold on to that simplicity because it servs your narrative. "Chris at least had a vision" is why people are talking about him, because back when he was in charge, PoE1 was booming. You can subjectively disagree, of course, but PoE1 kept growing. Now we can't spot a trace of vision or passion around PoE1, so of course people start asking for Chris. If you see that as "strange" or whatever, so be it, you're allowed. To boil it down to something "simple" and narrow/shallow (you seem to like that): PoE1 was in a MUCH better spot back when Chris was in charge. We had planning, we had structure and we had predictability. I just can't see how you can disagree with that. And if you don't disagree with that, you should perfectly fine see why people keeps asking for him. Bring me some coffee and I'll bring you a smile. Last edited by Phrazz#3529 on May 22, 2025, 8:27:07 AM
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'Chris': Copium keyword for 3 month leagues ;)
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Everyone is entitled to his/her opinion, however not all opinions are equal.
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Its pretty sure that every planning and release until today (even phrecia) was with Chris in charge. Leagues take quite some time to be designed.
When u mention Chris's routine, you do forget that poe2 happened, so that poe1 routine would just collapse in time, long or short. |
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