Steam is going balistic

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Hornsent#1110 wrote:

I don't even open the game for last week.

And will not play until they abandon the abhorrent vision.

Since the game just isn't good.

Should make characters faster and progression better.

0.1 had less content and was more enjoyable.

Ok, so don't play the game. You don't like it. We get it. Why do you need to convince us of your opinion?

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enslavedemperor#5410 wrote:

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DarkDredd#2184 wrote:

hahahahha

GGG posted info about "rules"...it means:
THEY DO NOT LIKE DISCCUSION about it (guess why)

No, it means people are breaking those rules as you can see in how some opinions are framed.

And the hardest one is "constructive discussion", that's broken by a large percent of posts and comments in them.

Threads like these should be deleted then, shouldn't they?

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Naharez#3496 wrote:

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enslavedemperor#5410 wrote:

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DarkDredd#2184 wrote:

hahahahha

GGG posted info about "rules"...it means:
THEY DO NOT LIKE DISCCUSION about it (guess why)

No, it means people are breaking those rules as you can see in how some opinions are framed.

And the hardest one is "constructive discussion", that's broken by a large percent of posts and comments in them.

Threads like these should be deleted then, shouldn't they?

There is no reason to delete an entire thread because someone in this thread broke the rules. They just remove the comment that breached the "Code of Conduct".

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JakkerONAIR#4902 wrote:

There is no reason to delete an entire thread because someone in this thread broke the rules. They just remove the comment that breached the "Code of Conduct".

This whole thread is a concoction of toxicity and not much more. There is little to no criticism of value in this. Most of the arguments in this thread are: "Look at the negative reviews. Learn from it!" and that's it. This is no constructive criticism. It's just dragging everybody down.

Constructive criticism would be like: "So when I play warrior and swing my two-handed mace it just feels too slow at the moment. That's because I can use a spear and attack much quicker and I have the feeling the game is easier if I use a spear instead of a two-handed mace. I also feel locked into the movement for too long so I am wondering whether the clearing times of the two-handed mace are slower, because you get animation locked while auto attacking..."

You see the difference? It's just an example, not meant to prove something. How many posts in here qualify for this sort of constructive feedback? Not even 10% I'd say. So deleting the thread would probably be a good measure.

Also, saying "Look at the negative reviews and learn from them!" feels equivalent to somebody saying "I have your daughter hostage, give me money!". It's blackmailing, imo, not constructive feedback. Why? Because if the devs gave in to those negative reviews, that would reward negative behaviour of doing something that hurts the game and it's reputation and demanding a certain behaviour from the devs. It's exactly the same as kidnapping somebody and demanding money, although not nearly as criminal and not nearly as severe, but still blackmail in nature.

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Naharez#3496 wrote:

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JakkerONAIR#4902 wrote:

There is no reason to delete an entire thread because someone in this thread broke the rules. They just remove the comment that breached the "Code of Conduct".

This whole thread is a concoction of toxicity and not much more. There is little to no criticism of value in this. Most of the arguments in this thread are: "Look at the negative reviews. Learn from it!" and that's it. This is no constructive criticism. It's just dragging everybody down.

Constructive criticism would be like: "So when I play warrior and swing my two-handed mace it just feels too slow at the moment. That's because I can use a spear and attack much quicker and I have the feeling the game is easier if I use a spear instead of a two-handed mace. I also feel locked into the movement for too long so I am wondering whether the clearing times of the two-handed mace are slower, because you get animation locked while auto attacking..."

You see the difference? It's just an example, not meant to prove something. How many posts in here qualify for this sort of constructive feedback? Not even 10% I'd say. So deleting the thread would probably be a good measure.

Also, saying "Look at the negative reviews and learn from them!" feels equivalent to somebody saying "I have your daughter hostage, give me money!". It's blackmailing, imo, not constructive feedback.

Sure, but keep in mind, and that should be very important to you:
If we remove every single comment/post/thread that does not follow the criteria "constructive feedback", that also includes all positive feedback which is not "constructive".

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JakkerONAIR#4902 wrote:

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Naharez#3496 wrote:

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JakkerONAIR#4902 wrote:

There is no reason to delete an entire thread because someone in this thread broke the rules. They just remove the comment that breached the "Code of Conduct".

This whole thread is a concoction of toxicity and not much more. There is little to no criticism of value in this. Most of the arguments in this thread are: "Look at the negative reviews. Learn from it!" and that's it. This is no constructive criticism. It's just dragging everybody down.

Constructive criticism would be like: "So when I play warrior and swing my two-handed mace it just feels too slow at the moment. That's because I can use a spear and attack much quicker and I have the feeling the game is easier if I use a spear instead of a two-handed mace. I also feel locked into the movement for too long so I am wondering whether the clearing times of the two-handed mace are slower, because you get animation locked while auto attacking..."

You see the difference? It's just an example, not meant to prove something. How many posts in here qualify for this sort of constructive feedback? Not even 10% I'd say. So deleting the thread would probably be a good measure.

Also, saying "Look at the negative reviews and learn from them!" feels equivalent to somebody saying "I have your daughter hostage, give me money!". It's blackmailing, imo, not constructive feedback.

Sure, but keep in mind, and that should be very important to you:
If we remove every single comment/post/thread that does not follow the criteria "constructive feedback", that also includes all positive feedback which is not "constructive".

Yeah, sure.

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Naharez#3496 wrote:

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JakkerONAIR#4902 wrote:

Sure, but keep in mind, and that should be very important to you:
If we remove every single comment/post/thread that does not follow the criteria "constructive feedback", that also includes all positive feedback which is not "constructive".

Yeah, sure.

I am... genuinely surprised about this awareness.

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Naharez#3496 wrote:

You see the difference? It's just an example, not meant to prove something. How many posts in here qualify for this sort of constructive feedback? Not even 10% I'd say. So deleting the thread would probably be a good measure.

Also, saying "Look at the negative reviews and learn from them!" feels equivalent to somebody saying "I have your daughter hostage, give me money!". It's blackmailing, imo, not constructive feedback.

This section is called "Early Access Feedback". At no point does it restrict or request for the feedback to be constructive only. While I do understand the idea that constructive feedback is more valueable to you or a developer, suggesting the deletion of non-constructive feedback (both positive and negative) has absolutely no basis other than "because I would like to read only constructive feedback" which is no more than a personal opinion.

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Naharez#3496 wrote:

Threads like these should be deleted then, shouldn't they?

To be perfectly clear, I created this topic for 1 and only reason.
To show, the way/sentiment the game is going.

Not to flame, hate speach or anything.

If there's no rule that feedback should be constructive. It should be added. Otherwise we are just wasting time on emotion and toxicty.