Goodbye Jonathan

866 hours devoted to a game that's.. boring? Why?
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866 hours devoted to a game that's.. boring? Why?
Wild guess. He spent the majority of his hours in 0.1, but the game became boring with the recent changes in 0.2.
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i rather play old nokia snakes rather than poe 2...
WDYM? snake is awesome! Anyway.

I feel you. GGG tells us what they are planning and obviously want our support, then we support them if we can, and they just don't do what we supported them for.



my point of view exactly.. like would i still donate as much as i did if i knew we are not getting graphic update patch or poe 2? probably not becuase game gets outdated (still my fav game)

but now we see whats poe 2 and tbh its not PoE at all.. and its not even an ARPG game if you ask me.. and i can tell you right now im never going to enjoy poe 2 its unenjoyable game..


i feel somewhat scammed.. i paid for PoE and got elder ring

also for all noobs here go check online players and you guys will realize that poe 1 actually has more players and better retntion than poe 2.. . reason is poe 1 = fun poe 2 = not fun
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Legoury#0138 wrote:

Some people really want to reassure themselves, thinking PoE1 would remain the main source of income for GGG.

Its been years now that PoE1 is reaching 200k players for every last season, when PoE2, with a price of 30 dollars to play, made 3 times this number with almost 600k players, for an EA !!!
If POE2 would release tomorrow for free, more than 1 million of players would play the game and Im sure a lot of new whales would appear.

So no, prosperity of GGG is not in danger at all. A new season of PoE1 would come in 1 month, old PoE1 players would enjoy it, maybe some players of PoE2 would try it, and GGG would be in the best position to maintain 2 games, with 2 communities and 2 income sources.
How many of the 600k ppl returned to 0.2.0? How many will return for 0.3.0? Do these ppl stay around for years like the old PoE1 community did?
Depending what happens, GGG could be in huge "danger". Piss off the PoE1 community - huge finacial loss. Get new players who don't stick around for a long time? Same.
It's not as simple as you make it seem.


again 100%

i doubt 0.3 will even have 150k peak.. many people wont bother with it again.

also lets be honest here.. 0.1 had peak of 600k players.. 0.2 had peak of 240k? which is same numbers as PoE 1 . . last league.. 3 weeks in and we are already down to 100k peak? even settelers in poe 1 after 3 weeks had more players. .
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Wild guess. He spent the majority of his hours in 0.1, but the game became boring with the recent changes in 0.2.


Yes. And thanks for the support, looks like lot of people dont understand how I spent a lot of time with this, if its boring.

To them, its like, you really want to love anything. Tried everything for that, and its time. More builds, rebuilds, regear, more atlas tree for loot. Its all the time where I spent around 250 hrs with 0.2. Others from 0.1.
And dont understand, why my opinion unacceptable, because I spent time, before said, its not good, its boring. If anybody come, who never played with Poe1, and say the same with only 10 hrs in Poe2, more acceptable because he says after less time ?
Most of us have no faith at ALL that GGG knows what's fun any more. The continual mistakes sap our ongoing support and patience.

The game is fundamentally broken. Randomness has been allowed to rule the experience - randomness in loot and randomness in difficulty. I sailed through half my current level with no problem. Then I died three times to invisible, unpredictable damage bursts and lost a huge amount of progress. I do an easy map and get some fair loot. Then I do 6 maps in a row with nothing. Rares melt in front of me...until I hit one that is suddenly unkillable because of a fatal combination of mods. It's not like we can read the mods in advance and modify our strategy - he sails in and kills us without warning.

How is anyone expected to enjoy this?
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After 866 hours in Poe 2, and over 5000 in Poe 1, the 0.2 finished to me.
I've never played a more boring game, than the Poe2 just now. Tried, because I loved the first game, and the first early acces patch not was bad. Tried, because I really wanted to find a motivation in this game, but you can't find what doesn't exist. Same boring maps again and again. Same idiot tower system. Without loot. Sometimes with 2-3 towers, full juiced maps, and dont even get enought exalteds, to make the next map juiced too. Divines ? Its a joke, after 250 hours, only 6 pure drop. And with the next patch ? Boss loot, and wisp loot. And if even, the loot drops really good, what can I do with this ? You man, killed every boss, every loot table. Ingenuity garbage, and all other main boss loot is garbage, because you killed the builds with them. Because your ,,vision". What can we farm ? Expedition, and hopefully get one Olroth's Resolve, and can be sell for 8 divine ? Man, one normal spear 200 div, just now, and later more expensieve. No, I dont want to play lightning spear. I played melee-bleed amazon.
But every good things from Poe 1, was skipped, because your vision. Even the good map system too, the usefull things with the map device, the fun gameplay, the pleasure, when I get one good loot, and more and more lost, only because your stupid vision. And everybody can say, its only early-acces. But its not a safe point anymore.
Not, because you dont even hear what the players want. It was clean, more years ago, the players want ingame auction house. With a new game, its the same wrong system. The players want faster gameplay, less time with Acts, you made it slowly, more time. The players clearly said after 0.1, they dont want only 2 meta builds, make more useful, and fast build. Instead of this, we have only one now. It was clearly said after 0.1, the tower system not enought good, we play our most time with useless maps. Of course its still, because this is your vision. You threw away more than 10 years of experience, because your vision is the most important thing.
Now its clear, you dont want make the game to the players. You want make the game, only to yourself. But now, lot of players left, and if anybody want stay yet, before or later they will also see, they can't. Because players, we dont have trade system. We can't sell anything, and we can't buy anything. That was your vision ? SSF to everybody.
So the question now, you release your vision, or not ? Or, its not need. Make one game to yourself, but then not wait with this. Leave, and make it. But dont bother the Poe anymore.
Goodbye Jonathan.


I agree to everything you said
350h PoE1 + 1050h PoE2

Yea, people will say
"Why do you have 1000h with PoE2 if you agree with that?"
Because I wanted to give it a chance and had real high hopes for it. And I still believe the gameplay mechanics are top notch and they're a wonderful canvas for something beautiful to be developed only for ....I still play, but every change, every nerf, every time I want to know how a mechanic works but I lack the information, every manual items rearrangement in the stash to make room, every time I play in co-op with a friend and some dark design pattern ruins our mood by deciding to fuck us, the flame and the motivation to come back slowly dim...
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Legoury#0138 wrote:

Some people really want to reassure themselves, thinking PoE1 would remain the main source of income for GGG.

Its been years now that PoE1 is reaching 200k players for every last season, when PoE2, with a price of 30 dollars to play, made 3 times this number with almost 600k players, for an EA !!!
If POE2 would release tomorrow for free, more than 1 million of players would play the game and Im sure a lot of new whales would appear.

So no, prosperity of GGG is not in danger at all. A new season of PoE1 would come in 1 month, old PoE1 players would enjoy it, maybe some players of PoE2 would try it, and GGG would be in the best position to maintain 2 games, with 2 communities and 2 income sources.
How many of the 600k ppl returned to 0.2.0? How many will return for 0.3.0? Do these ppl stay around for years like the old PoE1 community did?
Depending what happens, GGG could be in huge "danger". Piss off the PoE1 community - huge finacial loss. Get new players who don't stick around for a long time? Same.
It's not as simple as you make it seem.


again 100%

i doubt 0.3 will even have 150k peak.. many people wont bother with it again.

also lets be honest here.. 0.1 had peak of 600k players.. 0.2 had peak of 240k? which is same numbers as PoE 1 . . last league.. 3 weeks in and we are already down to 100k peak? even settelers in poe 1 after 3 weeks had more players. .


Let us never forget that, unlike PoE, Deuce's Steam numbers include the Chinese market. That inflates the relative difference significantly. ='[.]'=
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Why would you play a game you hate this much for 250 hours? Do you enjoy torturing yourself?

I think GGG should ignore all opinions of people who play a game that they apparently hate for this long. These are not normal people with a normal mindset and normal opinions.


GGG and other players should ignore opinions like ur, man that dont even have any characterin poe 95lvl+, ppl like u should just sit and shut up imo when someone wth experience talks.

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