Goodbye Jonathan

0.2 really sucks :D
Zou need to push higher. Those are rookie numbers.

The meme is "8.5k hours played - not recommended"

But thanks for letting us know you're a masochist.
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There really ought to be consequences this time around for failed leadership .How can it be that a single leader puts the prosperity of GGG in danger by completely abandoning POE1 - their main income source.


You would think so, right? The fact that a single individual could make such a wildly irrational and completely indefensible decision putting the entire studio in jeopardy by abandoning their main revenue source while alienating their most important demographic and not face swift and immediate consequences from their parent company whose entire existence focuses on making as much money as possible just seems hard to believe. It seems like the sort of thing that could only happen in someone's head who is making up a bunch of facts they have absolutely no possible way to claim are true because they live inside an echo chamber surrounded by like-minded individuals and completely shut out and ignore all ideas and opinions that contradict their preconceived notions about the objective facts of the situation.

Like, you're right guy. There is actually no way anyone could make this decision without consequence if PoE1 were still their main source of revenue, so the fact that there were in fact no consequences tells us that PoE1 is without a doubt no longer their main source of revenue.
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These people saying " I mean this was still Early Access " ahahqweqweqwe , meeeeeee meeeeee !! meeeee meeeeee ! sheeps...


ha ha

ok it's EA

we are say nothing, eating this "something"

after 2 years of vision they come and say: "sup guys, game is 1.0, release now! lets start balancing it!"


It stopped being EA moment they introduced loot boxes.
"We've just spent six years making expansions for path of exile, so imagine if we released path of exile 2 and it was just a bare campaign with none of that extra content. This would be a sad shell of an action RPG compared to the current state of path of exile."
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Kerchunk#7797 wrote:
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There really ought to be consequences this time around for failed leadership .How can it be that a single leader puts the prosperity of GGG in danger by completely abandoning POE1 - their main income source.


You would think so, right? The fact that a single individual could make such a wildly irrational and completely indefensible decision putting the entire studio in jeopardy by abandoning their main revenue source while alienating their most important demographic and not face swift and immediate consequences from their parent company whose entire existence focuses on making as much money as possible just seems hard to believe. It seems like the sort of thing that could only happen in someone's head who is making up a bunch of facts they have absolutely no possible way to claim are true because they live inside an echo chamber surrounded by like-minded individuals and completely shut out and ignore all ideas and opinions that contradict their preconceived notions about the objective facts of the situation.

Like, you're right guy. There is actually no way anyone could make this decision without consequence if PoE1 were still their main source of revenue, so the fact that there were in fact no consequences tells us that PoE1 is without a doubt no longer their main source of revenue.


Some people really want to reassure themselves, thinking PoE1 would remain the main source of income for GGG.

Its been years now that PoE1 is reaching 200k players for every last season, when PoE2, with a price of 30 dollars to play, made 3 times this number with almost 600k players, for an EA !!!
If POE2 would release tomorrow for free, more than 1 million of players would play the game and Im sure a lot of new whales would appear.

So no, prosperity of GGG is not in danger at all. A new season of PoE1 would come in 1 month, old PoE1 players would enjoy it, maybe some players of PoE2 would try it, and GGG would be in the best position to maintain 2 games, with 2 communities and 2 income sources.
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Legoury#0138 wrote:

Some people really want to reassure themselves, thinking PoE1 would remain the main source of income for GGG.

Its been years now that PoE1 is reaching 200k players for every last season, when PoE2, with a price of 30 dollars to play, made 3 times this number with almost 600k players, for an EA !!!
If POE2 would release tomorrow for free, more than 1 million of players would play the game and Im sure a lot of new whales would appear.

So no, prosperity of GGG is not in danger at all. A new season of PoE1 would come in 1 month, old PoE1 players would enjoy it, maybe some players of PoE2 would try it, and GGG would be in the best position to maintain 2 games, with 2 communities and 2 income sources.
How many of the 600k ppl returned to 0.2.0? How many will return for 0.3.0? Do these ppl stay around for years like the old PoE1 community did?
Depending what happens, GGG could be in huge "danger". Piss off the PoE1 community - huge finacial loss. Get new players who don't stick around for a long time? Same.
It's not as simple as you make it seem.
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Legoury#0138 wrote:

Some people really want to reassure themselves, thinking PoE1 would remain the main source of income for GGG.

Its been years now that PoE1 is reaching 200k players for every last season, when PoE2, with a price of 30 dollars to play, made 3 times this number with almost 600k players, for an EA !!!
If POE2 would release tomorrow for free, more than 1 million of players would play the game and Im sure a lot of new whales would appear.

So no, prosperity of GGG is not in danger at all. A new season of PoE1 would come in 1 month, old PoE1 players would enjoy it, maybe some players of PoE2 would try it, and GGG would be in the best position to maintain 2 games, with 2 communities and 2 income sources.
How many of the 600k ppl returned to 0.2.0? How many will return for 0.3.0? Do these ppl stay around for years like the old PoE1 community did?
Depending what happens, GGG could be in huge "danger". Piss off the PoE1 community - huge finacial loss. Get new players who don't stick around for a long time? Same.
It's not as simple as you make it seem.


Also how many people got free key because they spent $500! in PoE1.
"We've just spent six years making expansions for path of exile, so imagine if we released path of exile 2 and it was just a bare campaign with none of that extra content. This would be a sad shell of an action RPG compared to the current state of path of exile."
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Endz#7323 wrote:
I mean it’s still early access and every patch is an improvement.

To just give up on the game while it’s still being developed is overly dramatic, but the reality is I think you’re saying you’re quitting to bolster your opinion into having more credibility.

If you delete the crying parts of your post it would be an actual feedback post to try and better the game.
When is the time we are allowed to cry?

PoE2 was presented initially as a PoE1 expansion where they wanted to modernise the game, improve systems, update the engine and so on. Then 4 years later, they said "Jokes on you. It's a separate game now.". Was that time enough to cry?

When ppl were able to test PoE2's gameplay and gave their feedback that "Sorry, but that's not it" and GGG doubled down and said "Oopsie daisy, this is the new vision". Was that the time to cry?

When they released PoE2, that looked like a usable base to improve from, but vastly different from what PoE should look like if it wants to be PoE; then ppl gave their feedback, but GGG triple downed and made it even worse. That's not the time to cry?

When we got interviews where they showed us that "the vision" is more important than the long-term community. Is it then the time to cry?

Tell me. How long do we have to wait until we are allowed to cry about PoE2 not being PoE anymore?



100% and i think your comment is the best post ive ever read about poe and poe 2 ! im a long term poe 1 player playing for like 11 years since 2014 ... i kept on donating and supporting GGG with a promise that my donation and support directly help to develop PoE 2 (which as you said was supposed to be an expansion with visual and engine upgrade) then we were told poe 2 and 1 will be 2 games .. but we were promised over and over and over that poe 2 is still a PoE game where making crazy stuff possible Jonathan said "you will still kill white mobs with 1/10 of a hit and blue in a 1/5 " and so on.. where is that? poe 2 i have to say is the worst game ive ever tried in my entire life .. . i rather play old nokia snakes rather than poe 2..

where did my money go? poe 2 cant even become good it will never be a good game unless they delete it and remake it entirely different with different vision.. i swear i feel like i just want to refund all my support unless they give poe 1 visual and engine upgrade and apply the poe 2 graphic to poe 1
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i rather play old nokia snakes rather than poe 2...
WDYM? snake is awesome! Anyway.

I feel you. GGG tells us what they are planning and obviously want our support, then we support them if we can, and they just don't do what we supported them for.
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3.26 > 0.2 for sure

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