GGG... here's the basic concept on how to make a game FUN... you're welcome!!!

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Blade_Dancer_90#3602 wrote:

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Suchka_777#4336 wrote:

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Arunderan#4678 wrote:

Sure, but you can even in this early access version see the wrong directions.

But it depends on who you ask. For me, direction looks good, a lot of other players are happy about current direction of PoE 2. A lot of not happy. You are in the unhappy group, but calling your opinion the only truth isn't correct.

You're confusing the difference between an opinion based on feelings and FACTS... what I'm using are FACTS... I factually tell you how excitement and fun from a video game are created... these are FACTS based on basic human psychology... the fact that a massive part of the player base has been groomed to ignore their mental health and enjoy sadistic games that whip them and don't reward them because they've been brainwashed is a different topic.

The game is FACTUALLY not fun and it's FACTUALLY unrewarding... the fact that many people have been brainwashed by gaming companies to play more through frustration and through trying to "overcome adversity" instead through having fun and wanting to play more and having been brainwashed that the first state (frustration) is fun is a very different story...

Sorry but you've been groomed and brainwashed... don't like it? Not my problem, but it is what it is...

Lmfao what is this post

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Abudbim#7826 wrote:

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Blade_Dancer_90#3602 wrote:

So, let's all agree that PoE2 is a chore... even for those of you that think the game is perfect, the game is still a series of chores...

If you dont like these kind o games, dont play them .... this is A STYLE of game.

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Blade_Dancer_90#3602 wrote:

1) The game is not difficult
Before people start saying "oh, but the game is difficult so it's skill issues"... no, it's not difficult... keeping the player's power level artificially at the lowest you can is not difficulty... because I can buy good items from others and blow up the bosses and one shot everything... it's ARTIFICIAL DIFFICULTY and it's aimed at low IQ people that don't understand the difference between a challenge and being a hamster on a wheel with a carrot on the other side of the cage...

The game is not balanced right now ... its not necesserily a bad design ... lets wait next patches before.

Also, most players in the "hamster wheel" have, most likely, a higher IQ than yours, because they understood something about the game that your arrogance couldnt grasp.

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Blade_Dancer_90#3602 wrote:

b) Sense of Discovery/accomplishment
So here comes the part at which PoE2 is really bad at and PoE1 did mostly right and certainly way way WAAAAAY better than PoE2... So, what is sense of Discovery... it's the excitement that comes from finding out what you need for yourself to beat the game BY PLAYING THE GAME... in this game you CANNOT beat it by playing it... you will never find enough to sustain you on the ground and you always have to go back to the vendors and the online trading to get what you need...

No sir, in terms of "sense of Discory" both games are the same. Right now we have a problem with quantity of currency we get for crafting (imo not enough chaos orbs) and we should get more TierX gear during map progression. The core loop of both games are the same. And yes, you absolutely find enough on ground, thats how SSF works.

I like how you say poe1 does this better and the example you give is exactly how poe1 AND poe2 works LOL, now im sure you are in the "hamster wheel" you talked earlier.


Conslusion:
Despite you being enlightened, you cant tell difference between core game loop problems and balancing problems. But thanks god you can tell how PEOPLE should have fun, what would we do without YOU.

And make sure you are not the hamster, bacause it really looks like it. You are not in the same wheel as you talked about, but you sure are in a wheel.

When you offer one example that actually proves your "points" then come back and tell me... so far all you did was attack my character and my opinion by being disrespectful and calling me names...

Good job... for a kinder gardener!!!

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Mashgesture#2912 wrote:

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Blade_Dancer_90#3602 wrote:

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Suchka_777#4336 wrote:

But it depends on who you ask. For me, direction looks good, a lot of other players are happy about current direction of PoE 2. A lot of not happy. You are in the unhappy group, but calling your opinion the only truth isn't correct.

You're confusing the difference between an opinion based on feelings and FACTS... what I'm using are FACTS... I factually tell you how excitement and fun from a video game are created... these are FACTS based on basic human psychology... the fact that a massive part of the player base has been groomed to ignore their mental health and enjoy sadistic games that whip them and don't reward them because they've been brainwashed is a different topic.

The game is FACTUALLY not fun and it's FACTUALLY unrewarding... the fact that many people have been brainwashed by gaming companies to play more through frustration and through trying to "overcome adversity" instead through having fun and wanting to play more and having been brainwashed that the first state (frustration) is fun is a very different story...

Sorry but you've been groomed and brainwashed... don't like it? Not my problem, but it is what it is...

Lmfao what is this post

This is what happens when one spends too much time playing gatcha games and think that any level of difficulty is just bad design.

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Blade_Dancer_90#3602 wrote:

1) The game is not difficult

Before people start saying "oh, but the game is difficult so it's skill issues"... no, it's not difficult... keeping the player's power level artificially at the lowest you can is not difficulty... because I can buy good items from others and blow up the bosses and one shot everything... it's ARTIFICIAL DIFFICULTY and it's aimed at low IQ people that don't understand the difference between a challenge and being a hamster on a wheel with a carrot on the other side of the cage...

Luckily, the game is not designed and balanced around trading. On top of that, the game is unfinished and unbalanced.

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b) Sense of Discovery/accomplishment

So here comes the part at which PoE2 is really bad at and PoE1 did mostly right and certainly way way WAAAAAY better than PoE2... So, what is sense of Discovery... it's the excitement that comes from finding out what you need for yourself to beat the game BY PLAYING THE GAME... in this game you CANNOT beat it by playing it... you will never find enough to sustain you on the ground and you always have to go back to the vendors and the online trading to get what you need...

The game is v.0.1.0 and in Beta (technically I'd say its still in Alpha due to the amount of core content still missing). It is not balanced. It is not finished. Maps, in general, are the least tested part of the game. This is all common knowledge to anyone who has been following the game for even just a short while. I only started looking into PoE2 when GGG sent me a key, and even I knew that Maps were well undercooked prior to downloading the client.

If anyone expected a full and complete experience without any issues, then that is 100% on them.

Almost level 96 and I'm having a blast.

I would love to see the builds of the people saying they are having a blast, because I can almost promise if they were using builds that aren't meta they would have a vastly different opinion.

When you can 1 shot bosses, you aren't engaging with the game mechanics, there is no skill in pushing 3 buttons and winning in 5 seconds. That is akin to putting a coin in a casino machine.

You can say your accomplishment was moving your arm for a few seconds, and you can call it skill, but at the end of the day you aren't being rewarded for your ability to engage with the mechanics, you are being rewarded for not engaging with the mechanics.

Thats not skill, its anti-skill - and in a lot of cases, its rewarding people who look up guides and don't think or really understand why what they are doing works.

Pure cope.

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Arunderan#4678 wrote:

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Suchka_777#4336 wrote:

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Arunderan#4678 wrote:

Sure, but you can even in this early access version see the wrong directions.

But it depends on who you ask. For me, direction looks good, a lot of other players are happy about current direction of PoE 2. A lot of not happy. You are in the unhappy group, but calling your opinion the only truth isn't correct.

Oh, I am far away from thinking i have the only truth. I am also not unhappy because POE 2 is not POE 1. I am unhappy because POE 2 has some major design flaws. It is not consistent in itself, has some horrible attitudes like the ways too big levels, unavoidable one shots from the off, that Enemies are double as fast as you, the game happens in snail speed, dodgeroll as the main movement, a highly unfair player experience, and so on.

Do you even read what you are writing? In one paragraph, you are starting with saying that you are far away from thinking you have the only truth and ending saying that some changes some people love, like slower pace or more tactical gameplay due removing tuning down movement skills, are bad and it's the only truth.

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Blade_Dancer_90#3602 wrote:

When you offer one example that actually proves your "points" then come back and tell me... so far all you did was attack my character and my opinion by being disrespectful and calling me names...

Good job... for a kinder gardener!!!

I assumed you played both poe1 and poe2, but it seems you didnt play either.

Poe1: loot, identify rares bases you want, farm currency to spam craft some base you found. Or play trade, get items and blast through everything.

Poe2: loot, identify rares/magic bases you want, farm currency to spam craft on the items you found. Or play trade, get items and blast through everything.

Poe1 and 2 are the same, literally the same, as of your own definition:
"So, what is sense of Discovery... it's the excitement that comes from finding out what you need for yourself to beat the game BY PLAYING THE GAME...". How tha f are people killing booses on tier 4 and 5 on SSF ???

As of "Accomplishment", poe1 is exactly your example ... you kill 500 boses and get nothing.

So your argument that poe1 is " WAAAAAY better than" poe2 in "Sense of Discovery/accomplishment" makes no sense.

Even your "3) Giving power to the player" is not totally true: poe2 bosses drops more uniques, which could be an improvement to your build or a base for a different build you want to play. Killing the booss also improves the related mechanic, which in turn will grant you more opportunities to drop more items to get more upgrades. The bosses have a purpose and a drop table ... you are not forced to kill them on both games.



Now to the best part: You can tell how people should feel, you call them dumb and you want respect? You are a joke.

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Suchka_777#4336 wrote:

Do you even read what you are writing? In one paragraph, you are starting with saying that you are far away from thinking you have the only truth and ending saying that some changes some people love, like slower pace or more tactical gameplay due removing tuning down movement skills, are bad and it's the only truth.

Did i? The things I am supposed to have said always surprise me.

This is just my personal opinion and experience. I listed the points that makes me personally not play this game. Feel free to have your own.

So, let's all agree that PoE2 is a chore
Nope
So, let's all agree that you are a whiner.