Early Access Discussion - [SANCTUM SPOILER] Yeah, I Think I'm Done - Forum

I think OP exemplifies the issues of some poorly tuned afflictions rather than a fundamental issue with Sanctum itself. Yes, there are many problems with Sanctum, but here, OP's 18-minute fight would have been a 10.8-minute fight without the 40% less damage affliction. He almost certainly would have cleared it. A few of the afflictions are just so punishing that they should only be in the pool of afflictions where you get the choice of which to take (or none). It might have been acceptable to have these afflictions in the normal pool if Sanctum weren't a primary way, or if Sanctum were better tuned in general (doing on-level sanctums, especially in SSF, before the deep end-game is exceptionally hard). But as it is, they just need to boot some of them out.	Posted by Flaggro#2460 on Jan 13, 2025, 3:22:03 PM Quote this Post
" kamiknx#1162 wrote: Skill issue Can you tell the difference between these two? In PoE 2 it gets like ~15-20k DPS, maybe up to 25-30k with the extra levels for jewels. That's about it. Same type of build, much stronger in PoE 1. Git gud. Edit: Updated PoB image. Gaming PC: Win 11, 7600X3D, RTX 4080, 32GB DDR5-6000 CL30, 7000 MB/s SSD, 850W, 3840x2160p 120Hz Streaming PC: Win 11, i5-12400, RTX 4060, 32GB DDR5-6000 CL36, 7000 MB/s SSD, 450W, 1920x1080p 60Hz Last edited by BaumisMagicalWorld#0673 on Jan 13, 2025, 10:58:51 PM	Posted by BaumisMagicalWorld#0673 on Jan 13, 2025, 3:23:24 PM Quote this Post
Post your gear and build and you'll get a lot more valuable responses on what it is that needs improvement.	Posted by MOZZIE#1849 on Jan 13, 2025, 3:26:42 PM Quote this Post
I have a warcry warbringer and I'm too scared to do these trials, as I got too frustrated after failing multiple times due to gimmicky mechanics and how terrible the honour system is. That said, would you like to borrow some of my gear? It would hopefully give you around 40% more damage and at least a couple hundred more life. I'm not too great at embedding pictures, so I can just tell you what my 79 warbringer has. 1881 warcry dot dps without any active damage bonuses, 2999 life, res cap, 623 strength, 6401 armour, etc. DoT damage goes up to around 2290 dps per stack after getting the damage boost from recent warcries. I was lucky and was able to snag some okay gear before the prices went up from build popularity. You would probably do more damage and have more survivability since you are 9 levels higher. Let me know if you would like some help from a bit of my gear. Last edited by Horky#6225 on Jan 13, 2025, 7:49:20 PM	Posted by Horky#6225 on Jan 13, 2025, 3:47:39 PM Quote this Post
" Horky#6225 wrote: I'm not too great at embedding pictures, so I can just tell you what my 79 warbringer has. 1881 warcry dot dps without any active damage bonuses, 2999 life, res cap, 623 strength, 6401 armour, etc. DoT damage goes up to around 2290 dps per stack after getting the damage boost from recent warcries. That's not the point of the build. I could easily grab more damage, but it's not worth the trade-off. In your case, it's the amount of STR that does it, but your defenses lack quite a bit. I was running Cloak of Flame, Enfeeble and Encase in Jade. Quite a bit of difference in tankiness there. That means I have roughly 50% effective PDR at all times for the big hits, as long as there's no max res penalty or penetration. I'm also unaffected by Armour Break. Point is that boss fights are still boss fights and I can take a chill pill knowing I won't get wiped easily. However, the scaling currently is lackluster. Gaming PC: Win 11, 7600X3D, RTX 4080, 32GB DDR5-6000 CL30, 7000 MB/s SSD, 850W, 3840x2160p 120Hz Streaming PC: Win 11, i5-12400, RTX 4060, 32GB DDR5-6000 CL36, 7000 MB/s SSD, 450W, 1920x1080p 60Hz	Posted by BaumisMagicalWorld#0673 on Jan 13, 2025, 7:56:17 PM Quote this Post
holy shit. how long is that bullet phase? i m a mace user that bonks enemies with my weapon. if i keep running around all day thats all i ever can do in that situation [Removed by Support]	Posted by exsea#1724 on Jan 13, 2025, 8:54:09 PM Quote this Post
trials suck. period. worst game mechanic ever.	Posted by TheOrigin79#2030 on Jan 13, 2025, 8:57:19 PM Quote this Post
" Syracuss#3611 wrote: " CyphuI#1004 wrote: -40% damage is MASSIVE. I don't think you realize how massive. Not just massive, the order of ops also means that if you pick up a +50% damage boon you'll still be doing less damage. I picked up that boon first and when faced with an impossible and bad choice (where the bad was the -40%), I thought "well at least my +50% will counter it". After I picked it up I was still doing less dps than my default because the -40% is applied first, and the +50% is applied to the resulting dps (in the end that's 90% of your normal dps). It's not massive the difference to my baseline, but that run was already massively unlucky (forced pick of -50% sacred water, and more expensive merchant goods, the combo that would kill any shop interactions that could counter/fix bad afflictions), really felt like the run had it out for me. This order of ops really caught me by surprise tbh, not really what I'd expect and felt like the game specifically made this choice to be punishing. I play roguelites frequently and I don't recall any ever doing it this way either. I'd like to point out that order does NOT matter. 1.0 x 1.5 = 1.5 ----> 1.5 x 0.6 = 0.9 1.0 x 0.6 = 0.6 ----> 0.6 x 1.5 = 0.9 What matters is that it's multiplicative and not additive.	Posted by Redthorne82#3177 on Jan 13, 2025, 9:22:37 PM Quote this Post
Same here love the game & I hate the ascendancies. Hated Sanctum league and I hated Ultimatum as well totally skipped both leagues in POE1.	Posted by Ozby#7675 on Jan 13, 2025, 10:16:42 PM Quote this Post
Bruh ... if you fight for 18minutes on ANY boss in the game, you seriously need to re-consider your build. What in the hell do you really want? Should GGG balance encounters around people who open their passive tree and random-click 80 skillpts and call it a day and expect to clear content/bosses? Idc how much you dislike Sanctum as a mechanic. Fighting the last boss for 18min is not a sanctum problem, it's a YOU problem.	Posted by oestergreen#1184 on Jan 13, 2025, 10:33:47 PM Quote this Post