Exp loss on death topics are getting out of hand.

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Pl4t1numX#4325 wrote:

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Akedomo#3573 wrote:

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crazyfingers619#3901 wrote:

Players hate difficulty mechanics until the totally complete the game and wish they had more to do.

They serve a purpose and imposing them later into the game is fair.

Man, I play Minecraft almost every day since it came out. The game isn't even remotely difficult. It's just fun, creative gameplay, exploration.

Games don't need difficulty to keep players interested. They just need to be good.

Seriously sick of seeing your half-baked takes. Make the game better, the stupid mechanic isn't needed. If people like you want it. They can make it optional. Simple as that.

if people like you dont like it. They kan play another game. Simple as that.

Same can go for you. If you don't like the feedback and direction of PoE 2. You can go play PoE 1.

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Pl4t1numX#4325 wrote:

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dakoexile#7461 wrote:

The point here is its a STUPID mechanic that frankly disrespects the time players invest in the game. Over the many years of POE I have frequently been at 50% thru a level and get keys for a few bosses and have to wait till I finish off the level before trying the bosses. How can this be a good mechanic? I still don't lose exp from deaths but just have to wait to play the game I want to play.

the fact that you dont understand risk vs reward doesnt make the mechanic disrespecting. in poe everything is risk vs reward, thats the core of the game. if you dont like it, maybe play something different or deal with it.

I reiterate if the "risk vs reward" here is important. Exp loss should cause players to lose levels. Exp loss is a poor and lazy choice for risk. GGG can do better.

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crazyfingers619#3901 wrote:

Same can go for you. If you don't like the feedback and direction of PoE 2. You can go play PoE 1.

im not the one of us complaining about xp loss

ENd game is not about XP but gear and the fun we have along the way.


Don't like XP loss? Don't die so much and blame the game and not realize its a skill issue.

Deaths are currently too punishing at end game, period. And unless you have gotten to lvl 100 solo with zero deaths and taken no damage at all, you can shove that "hurr git gud imma a hardcore gamer". We dont care, kid. Take your ass to the frontlines of a warzone with only a sidearm and ka-bar if you think you're that "hard".

Currently you lose your map, you lose the dropped items, you lose HOURS of EXP, and god forbid you die on a citadel, your citadel is gone too. Far too many mobs can one-shot you regardless of build and some rare modifiers are omega-levels of stupid. I had a single rare with haste, life regen, prox tange, mana siphon AND explodes corpse... this should NEVER be a thing. Server lag is still a problem for many so getting one-tapped is absolutely unfair and losing everything else is just NOT FUN. More players are dying to lag then "hurrr your build is bad hurrr" (most people in endgame are following other peoples builds. So its not the builds)

I have an two idea paths as a compromise:

A: Lose Map on Death
PRO: Zero XP loss
CON (punishment) : You obviously lose the map and any remaining items

B: No Map Loss on death
PRO: You dont lose the map and you get another attempt to complete it and get the items.
CON (punishment):You lose any EXP gained on that map and you cant gain any more XP on that map.


GGG needs to remember their target audience: Working adults. We dont have time for losing two days worth of play time because of a single mistake/terrible code design/wal-mart-grade infrastructure.

Do better GGG

I think people in favor of XP penalty should be making their own "I like XP penalty" thread so the 3 of you can talk all you want.

More seriously, feedback is not an argument. You state your opinion to GGG and you don't really care about people who disagree. If you feel threaten by many feedback you disagree with, you make your own thread praising the opposite.

In the end it's in the hands of GGG, you can't make me like playing with XP penalty and I can't make you like playing without it. There's literally no point in arguing.

GGG is not going to be like "you know what that guy page 58 of this one particular thread makes a good point".

Just make a thread for your feedback and just +1 the one you agree with. As it should be for any feedback or feature request.

Congratulations OP you figured out how feedback threads work!

Now just stand back and feel the WEIGHT of the deja vu of the people arguing against GGG trying to make this into a zoomies meta.

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Vinsdvalh#0247 wrote:

I think people in favor of XP penalty should be making their own "I like XP penalty" thread so the 3 of you can talk all you want.

More seriously, feedback is not an argument. You state your opinion to GGG and you don't really care about people who disagree. If you feel threaten by many feedback you disagree with, you make your own thread praising the opposite.

In the end it's in the hands of GGG, you can't make me like playing with XP penalty and I can't make you like playing without it. There's literally no point in arguing.

GGG is not going to be like "you know what that guy page 58 of this one particular thread makes a good point".

Just make a thread for your feedback and just +1 the one you agree with. As it should be for any feedback or feature request.

Nobody likes XP penalty, that's the whole point. But some people can accept it as a consequence of their own failures, and some others blame the game's design they still chose to play voluntarly.

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dakoexile#7461 wrote:

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Pl4t1numX#4325 wrote:

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dakoexile#7461 wrote:

The point here is its a STUPID mechanic that frankly disrespects the time players invest in the game. Over the many years of POE I have frequently been at 50% thru a level and get keys for a few bosses and have to wait till I finish off the level before trying the bosses. How can this be a good mechanic? I still don't lose exp from deaths but just have to wait to play the game I want to play.

the fact that you dont understand risk vs reward doesnt make the mechanic disrespecting. in poe everything is risk vs reward, thats the core of the game. if you dont like it, maybe play something different or deal with it.

I reiterate if the "risk vs reward" here is important. Exp loss should cause players to lose levels. Exp loss is a poor and lazy choice for risk. GGG can do better.

In fact it serves its purpose very well and pretty balanced as it is.

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dwqrf#0717 wrote:

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Vinsdvalh#0247 wrote:

I think people in favor of XP penalty should be making their own "I like XP penalty" thread so the 3 of you can talk all you want.

More seriously, feedback is not an argument. You state your opinion to GGG and you don't really care about people who disagree. If you feel threaten by many feedback you disagree with, you make your own thread praising the opposite.

In the end it's in the hands of GGG, you can't make me like playing with XP penalty and I can't make you like playing without it. There's literally no point in arguing.

GGG is not going to be like "you know what that guy page 58 of this one particular thread makes a good point".

Just make a thread for your feedback and just +1 the one you agree with. As it should be for any feedback or feature request.

Nobody likes XP penalty, that's the whole point. But some people can accept it as a consequence of their own failures, and some others blame the game's design they still chose to play voluntarly.

This guy gets it.

I wonder if there is a correlation between people who only followed build guides and never learned how to play a mechanical based game and those crying about XP loss.

I bet the correlation is astonishing.

But I reckon ill get quoted by some dude who "1,000s of hours in POE 1" talking about how I don't know what im talking about and that GGG left its playerbase in the dust and this is the worst game ever and its dead.