Exp loss on death topics are getting out of hand.

I think people in favor of XP penalty should be making their own "I like XP penalty" thread so the 3 of you can talk all you want.

More seriously, feedback is not an argument. You state your opinion to GGG and you don't really care about people who disagree. If you feel threaten by many feedback you disagree with, you make your own thread praising the opposite.

In the end it's in the hands of GGG, you can't make me like playing with XP penalty and I can't make you like playing without it. There's literally no point in arguing.

GGG is not going to be like "you know what that guy page 58 of this one particular thread makes a good point".

Just make a thread for your feedback and just +1 the one you agree with. As it should be for any feedback or feature request.
Congratulations OP you figured out how feedback threads work!

Now just stand back and feel the WEIGHT of the deja vu of the people arguing against GGG trying to make this into a zoomies meta.
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I think people in favor of XP penalty should be making their own "I like XP penalty" thread so the 3 of you can talk all you want.

More seriously, feedback is not an argument. You state your opinion to GGG and you don't really care about people who disagree. If you feel threaten by many feedback you disagree with, you make your own thread praising the opposite.

In the end it's in the hands of GGG, you can't make me like playing with XP penalty and I can't make you like playing without it. There's literally no point in arguing.

GGG is not going to be like "you know what that guy page 58 of this one particular thread makes a good point".

Just make a thread for your feedback and just +1 the one you agree with. As it should be for any feedback or feature request.


Nobody likes XP penalty, that's the whole point. But some people can accept it as a consequence of their own failures, and some others blame the game's design they still chose to play voluntarly.
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The point here is its a STUPID mechanic that frankly disrespects the time players invest in the game. Over the many years of POE I have frequently been at 50% thru a level and get keys for a few bosses and have to wait till I finish off the level before trying the bosses. How can this be a good mechanic? I still don't lose exp from deaths but just have to wait to play the game I want to play.



the fact that you dont understand risk vs reward doesnt make the mechanic disrespecting. in poe everything is risk vs reward, thats the core of the game. if you dont like it, maybe play something different or deal with it.


I reiterate if the "risk vs reward" here is important. Exp loss should cause players to lose levels. Exp loss is a poor and lazy choice for risk. GGG can do better.
In fact it serves its purpose very well and pretty balanced as it is.
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dwqrf#0717 wrote:
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I think people in favor of XP penalty should be making their own "I like XP penalty" thread so the 3 of you can talk all you want.

More seriously, feedback is not an argument. You state your opinion to GGG and you don't really care about people who disagree. If you feel threaten by many feedback you disagree with, you make your own thread praising the opposite.

In the end it's in the hands of GGG, you can't make me like playing with XP penalty and I can't make you like playing without it. There's literally no point in arguing.

GGG is not going to be like "you know what that guy page 58 of this one particular thread makes a good point".

Just make a thread for your feedback and just +1 the one you agree with. As it should be for any feedback or feature request.


Nobody likes XP penalty, that's the whole point. But some people can accept it as a consequence of their own failures, and some others blame the game's design they still chose to play voluntarly.



This guy gets it.

I wonder if there is a correlation between people who only followed build guides and never learned how to play a mechanical based game and those crying about XP loss.

I bet the correlation is astonishing.

But I reckon ill get quoted by some dude who "1,000s of hours in POE 1" talking about how I don't know what im talking about and that GGG left its playerbase in the dust and this is the worst game ever and its dead.
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dwqrf#0717 wrote:
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I think people in favor of XP penalty should be making their own "I like XP penalty" thread so the 3 of you can talk all you want.

More seriously, feedback is not an argument. You state your opinion to GGG and you don't really care about people who disagree. If you feel threaten by many feedback you disagree with, you make your own thread praising the opposite.

In the end it's in the hands of GGG, you can't make me like playing with XP penalty and I can't make you like playing without it. There's literally no point in arguing.

GGG is not going to be like "you know what that guy page 58 of this one particular thread makes a good point".

Just make a thread for your feedback and just +1 the one you agree with. As it should be for any feedback or feature request.


Nobody likes XP penalty, that's the whole point. But some people can accept it as a consequence of their own failures, and some others blame the game's design they still chose to play voluntarly.


Blaming the game's design you chose to play voluntarly, is called negative feedback. Without negative or positive feedback, we would still be playing pong.

If nobody likes XP penalty they need to be gone. Why not rewarding excellent gameplay instead, with increasing XP gain over time for deathless gameplay ? Why not doubling the XP required to level up ?
Last edited by Vinsdvalh#0247 on Dec 28, 2024, 4:25:38 PM
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dwqrf#0717 wrote:
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I think people in favor of XP penalty should be making their own "I like XP penalty" thread so the 3 of you can talk all you want.

More seriously, feedback is not an argument. You state your opinion to GGG and you don't really care about people who disagree. If you feel threaten by many feedback you disagree with, you make your own thread praising the opposite.

In the end it's in the hands of GGG, you can't make me like playing with XP penalty and I can't make you like playing without it. There's literally no point in arguing.

GGG is not going to be like "you know what that guy page 58 of this one particular thread makes a good point".

Just make a thread for your feedback and just +1 the one you agree with. As it should be for any feedback or feature request.


Nobody likes XP penalty, that's the whole point. But some people can accept it as a consequence of their own failures, and some others blame the game's design they still chose to play voluntarly.


Blaming the game's design you chose to play voluntarly, is called negative feedback. Without negative or positive feedback, we would still be playing pong.

If nobody likes XP penalty they need to be gone. Why not rewarding excellent gameplay instead, with increasing XP gain over time for deathless gameplay ? Why not doubling the XP required to level up ?



They already do that...its called not losing 15% xp when you die. Shocker
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dwqrf#0717 wrote:
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I think people in favor of XP penalty should be making their own "I like XP penalty" thread so the 3 of you can talk all you want.

More seriously, feedback is not an argument. You state your opinion to GGG and you don't really care about people who disagree. If you feel threaten by many feedback you disagree with, you make your own thread praising the opposite.

In the end it's in the hands of GGG, you can't make me like playing with XP penalty and I can't make you like playing without it. There's literally no point in arguing.

GGG is not going to be like "you know what that guy page 58 of this one particular thread makes a good point".

Just make a thread for your feedback and just +1 the one you agree with. As it should be for any feedback or feature request.


Nobody likes XP penalty, that's the whole point. But some people can accept it as a consequence of their own failures, and some others blame the game's design they still chose to play voluntarly.



This guy gets it.

I wonder if there is a correlation between people who only followed build guides and never learned how to play a mechanical based game and those crying about XP loss.

I bet the correlation is astonishing.

But I reckon ill get quoted by some dude who "1,000s of hours in POE 1" talking about how I don't know what im talking about and that GGG left its playerbase in the dust and this is the worst game ever and its dead.


You wonder if people who follow build guides want a more casual friendly game ?

I wonder if people who spend 10 hours a day wants to make the game less casual.

Maybe we can both be hired by Scotland Yard for our awesome insight skill. :D
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dwqrf#0717 wrote:


Nobody likes XP penalty, that's the whole point. But some people can accept it as a consequence of their own failures, and some others blame the game's design they still chose to play voluntarly.


Blaming the game's design you chose to play voluntarly, is called negative feedback. Without negative or positive feedback, we would still be playing pong.

If nobody likes XP penalty they need to be gone. Why not rewarding excellent gameplay instead, with increasing XP gain over time for deathless gameplay ? Why not doubling the XP required to level up ?



They already do that...its called not losing 15% xp when you die. Shocker


Ah, then we're all good there since you don't lose 15% xp when you die in POE1 or in POE2.

It's pretty telling about how far someone has played when they can't even get that simple part correct.
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They already do that...its called not losing 15% xp when you die. Shocker


So you win by not losing. *Shocked* game design at its peak.

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